Eric,
Make sure that Excel is not doing anything “helpful” for you
during the CVS export. I have seen many occasions where Excel tries to help
with CSV import and export and changes the data format. One example is when
you have a very large number, Excel will convert it to scientific notation.
If you need help, you can email mail me and I will see if I can’t help you with
the Excel / CSV file.
Eric B
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Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when importing
Hey Nigel?
I am going to ask something here, and it might get you irritated, but please
understand that it is important and also within the context of this group.
Do you have any kind of visual impairment that negatively impacts your ability
to use specific software on whatever platform you choose to use?
I can tell you right now, if you don’t, then you don’t have any real
understanding of the problems that me and others on this list (who do) have
when it comes to software. Screen readers and braille displays are pretty much
a must when you can’t see the screen.
Now, someone suggested the use of Libre office. That’s all fine and good if you
are on a Linux OS. Not so useful on either the OS X or windows platforms when a
screen reader/braille display is in use.. This means we are limited in what we
can (or can’t) use on a given platform at a given time and set of
circumstances. The same is true for CHIRP. I can only use it on Linux and no
where else.
Also, on the subject of CSV and TSV files, both of those are standardized
formats that shouldn’t be presenting any issues. I use the 2010 version of
excel and word here on the windows machine as nothing later is supported (it’s
windows 7). So far, I have not encounter the issues you spoke of. If MS excel
is introducing these types of errors, then they broke something and are
violating standardized formats doing so.
Now, as for me, I am totally blind (literally). I have no light perception, so
I expect all my tools to work in an expected fashion. If they don’t, then I am
in serious trouble. This pretty much means that I have to be very conversant
with them and how they work at the software/hardware level.
So, when it comes to CHIRP, I really wish it were fully accessible using
braille or screen reader on platforms other than just Linux. Until that
happens, I have to keep up on the latest tools (such as more specialized radio
programming software that is accessible on windows or OS X), office packages
that need to communicate with one another regardless of platform etc.
Unfortunately, being totally blind makes that rather more difficult under the
best of circumstances. So, unless you have a real understanding of how those of
us without sight have to function, then you really don’t have any understanding
at all. Oh, and if you *THINK* that wearing a blindfold will help you
understand, no it won’t. It’s because, at the end of the day, you will still be
able to take it off and use your eyes. Those of us who don’t have that option
have to spend longer doing some tasks, use alternative methods to get our info,
or even use radio programming software with tools designed to work around the
lack of eyesight issue. The chirp package is no exception to this. If I want to
use windows to program my radios, I have to use RT systems on that oS platform.
I don’t get a choice. On OS X, there are NO accessible packages or
methodologies that will allow me to program a radio like my UV5R, or the
PK-888, the Retevus H777s, or even my midland g40. Most of these can be handled
by Chirp on linux and no where else for me. Now, lets see you try and maintain
3 os platforms, on separate machines, having to know keyboard commands for each
screen reader, etc. I can do it because I am cursed with an Eidetic memory.
When I say cursed, I mean it. If any changes get made, I have to account for
those, etc. that means my head gets full and I have no way to dump those
memories. On the plus side, once I pick up something, I never lose it again,
ever.
Anyway, enough of my ranting on software, accessibility, etc.
DE n7zzt Eric
On Mar 23, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Glenn K0LNY <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Well from the perspective of a screenreader user, I find editing things much
easier to make changes in a spreadsheet program outside of Chirp and import
them after the changes were made, so I would call that, the better way.
Glenn
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From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <mailto:[email protected]>
To: Eric Oyen <mailto:[email protected]> ; Eric Oyen via chirp_users
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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when importing
The best way is not to use CSV files at all.
On 23/03/2021 02:08 Eric Oyen via chirp_users
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> wrote:
One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a spreadsheet program
like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants. Simply import as a cSV,
do your editing, then export back to a CSV file. Compare the original to the
new edited version to make sure the same number of commas are in place on the
right lines. BTW, I have already tried this on my windows box using excel and a
program specifically designed for the Baofeng radio. So, it should work the
same way with chirp as both that program and cHIRP should read or write CSV
files in the same way.
DE n7zzt Eric
On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via chirp_users
< <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]> wrote:
’m trying to import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back to my radio.
Steps I’ve taken:
Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to CHIRP
Exported memories to a CSV file
Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting an unknown file format
message
What am I missing?
Thanks for any help!
Steve
KF0CPV
How did you edit the CSV file?
What did you change?
Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV file using a
text editor?
Attach both the before and after CSV files to this conversation so
that they can be reviewed.
The most common cause of trouble is...
- The data format of a cell was changed.
- The number of commas required at the end of a data row was changed.
Jim KC9HI
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