Lol he sounded a bit stressed huh? Well I hope it works out for him for 
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>>>   1. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing (Eric Oyen)
>>>   2. Re: Chirp does not work on my Baofeng UV-5R radio, I am
>>>      deleting the program!!! (Eric Oyen)
>>>   3. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing
>>>      (D.J.J. Ring, Jr.)
>>>   4. Help - Programing ICOM handheld IC-2GXET and IC-T7E (Allan Carson)
>>>   5. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing
>>>      (Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF)
>>>   6. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing (Glenn K0LNY)
>>>   7. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 23:08:39 -0700
>>> From: Eric Oyen <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>        importing
>>> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a spreadsheet
>>> program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants. Simply
>>> import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file. Compare
>>> the original to the new edited version to make sure the same number of
>>> commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this on
>>> my windows box using excel and a program specifically designed for the
>>> Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp as both that
>>> program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same way.
>>> 
>>> DE n7zzt Eric
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via chirp_users
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:
>>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?m trying to import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back to my radio.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steps I?ve taken:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to CHIRP
>>>>> Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>>> Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
>>>>> Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting an unknown
>> file
>>> format message
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any help!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> KF0CPV
>>>> 
>>>> How did you edit the CSV file?
>>>> What did you change?
>>>> Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV file using a
>>>> text editor?
>>>> Attach both the before and after CSV files to this conversation so
>>>> that they can be reviewed.
>>>> 
>>>> The most common cause of trouble is...
>>>> 
>>>> - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>> - The number of commas required at the end of a data row was changed.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim KC9HI
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 23:20:55 -0700
>>> From: Eric Oyen <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp does not work on my Baofeng UV-5R
>>>        radio, I am deleting the program!!!
>>> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> Well, it certainly is handy to have the extra links. Always convenient to
>>> have local copies just in case. :)
>>> 
>>> DE N7zzt Eric
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:45 AM, Jim Unroe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 12:39 AM Glenn K0LNY <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I only program my UV 5R with Chirp in Linux.
>>>>> Glenn
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My guess would be that is because your programming cable has a
>>>> Prolific type USB-to-Serial chip.
>>>> 
>>>> For Windows you would need to download and install the older Prolific
>>>> v3.2.0.0 device driver.
>>>> https://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php
>>>> 
>>>> For macOS you would have to purchase a 3rd party device driver
>>>> (Catalina and earlier. No Big Sur support yet.).
>>>> https://www.mac-usb-serial.com/
>>>> 
>>>> Linux doesn't need this extra bit of TLC because the device drivers
>>>> are open source (and don't come from the Prolific company).
>>>> 
>>>> Jim KC9HI
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:59:47 -0400
>>> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>        importing
>>> To: Eric Oyen <[email protected]>,   Discussion of CHIRP
>>>        <[email protected]>
>>> Message-ID:
>>>        <CADO5RbjSUHQBUygWF+3L6u2pTT1=
>>> [email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> 
>>> If I'm not mistaken, there was an issue of Microsoft Excel not editing
>>> the csv files correctly and when opening such a file up and saving it
>>> again, it introduced errors.
>>> 
>>> Such errors did NOT occur with the use of LibreOffice (or OpenOffice)
>>> which is available for Windows, Mac OX-X, and Linux.
>>> 
>>> OpenOffice download: https://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>> LibreOffice download: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/
>>> (currently out of order)
>>> LibreOffice download:
>>> http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/libreoffice/stable/7.1.1/
>>> 
>>> If Microsoft Excel no longer introduces errors, someone please correct
>> me.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> DR
>>> N1EA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:10 AM Eric Oyen via chirp_users
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a spreadsheet
>>> program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants. Simply
>>> import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file. Compare
>>> the original to the new edited version to make sure the same number of
>>> commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this on
>>> my windows box using excel and a program specifically designed for the
>>> Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp as both that
>>> program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same way.
>>>> 
>>>> DE n7zzt Eric
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via chirp_users
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ?m trying to import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back to my radio.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Steps I?ve taken:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to CHIRP
>>>> Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>> Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
>>>> Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting an unknown file
>>> format message
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What am I missing?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for any help!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> KF0CPV
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How did you edit the CSV file?
>>>> What did you change?
>>>> Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV file using a
>>>> text editor?
>>>> Attach both the before and after CSV files to this conversation so
>>>> that they can be reviewed.
>>>> 
>>>> The most common cause of trouble is...
>>>> 
>>>> - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>> - The number of commas required at the end of a data row was changed.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim KC9HI
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>>>> This message was sent to Eric Oyen at [email protected]
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 12:23:15 +0200
>>> From: Allan Carson <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [chirp_users] Help - Programing ICOM handheld IC-2GXET and
>>>        IC-T7E
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Message-ID:
>>>        <CANheJuSYdcmWorN0sQ_Rcyf6H_G05afhNBtOiAWU=
>>> [email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Hi Chirp,
>>> 
>>> Great job you guys are doing there - thanks!
>>> 
>>> Can you please give me some help - I have a multi-function JiYKR cable
>>> to program my radios, but I can't seem to be able to get in to change or
>>> save any of the settings when I use the 'live' mode on Chirp. Could you
>>> give me some info on how to use the live mode and or suggest any other
>>> versions that I can use to program the IC-2GXET and IC-T7E?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Allan - ZS1AL
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 08:45:46 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>        importing
>>> To: Eric Oyen <[email protected]>,   Eric Oyen via chirp_users
>>>        <[email protected]>
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> The best way is not to use CSV files at all.
>>> 
>>>>    On 23/03/2021 02:08 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a spreadsheet
>>> program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants. Simply
>>> import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file. Compare
>>> the original to the new edited version to make sure the same number of
>>> commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this on
>>> my windows box using excel and a program specifically designed for the
>>> Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp as both that
>>> program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same way.
>>>> 
>>>>    DE n7zzt Eric
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>        On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <
>>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>        On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via
>>> chirp_users
>>>>>        <[email protected] mailto:
>>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            ?m trying to import a csv file into
>>> CHIRP to upload back to my radio.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            Steps I?ve taken:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to
>>> CHIRP
>>>>>>            Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>>>>            Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
>>>>>>            Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting
>>> an unknown file format message
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            What am I missing?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            Thanks for any help!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            Steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            KF0CPV
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>        How did you edit the CSV file?
>>>>>        What did you change?
>>>>>        Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV
>> file
>>> using a
>>>>>        text editor?
>>>>>        Attach both the before and after CSV files to this
>>> conversation so
>>>>>        that they can be reviewed.
>>>>> 
>>>>>        The most common cause of trouble is...
>>>>> 
>>>>>        - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>>>        - The number of commas required at the end of a data row was
>>> changed.
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Jim KC9HI
>>>>>        _______________________________________________
>>>>>        chirp_users mailing list
>>>>>        [email protected] mailto:
>>> [email protected]
>>>>>        http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>>>>>        This message was sent to Eric Oyen at [email protected]
>>> mailto:[email protected]
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>>> [email protected] mailto:
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>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>    _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing
>>> list [email protected]
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>>> was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at [email protected] To unsubscribe, send an
>>> email to [email protected]
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions   tel +1-937-971-0366
>>> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail [email protected] www
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 10:37:38 -0500
>>> From: "Glenn K0LNY" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>        importing
>>> To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <[email protected]>
>>> Message-ID: <0a9b01d71ffa$7528c450$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Well from the perspective of a screenreader user, I find editing things
>>> much easier to make changes in a spreadsheet program outside of Chirp and
>>> import them after the changes were made, so I would call that, the better
>>> way.
>>> Glenn
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
>>> To: Eric Oyen ; Eric Oyen via chirp_users
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when importing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The best way is not to use CSV files at all.
>>>  On 23/03/2021 02:08 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a spreadsheet
>>> program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants. Simply
>>> import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file. Compare
>>> the original to the new edited version to make sure the same number of
>>> commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this on
>>> my windows box using excel and a program specifically designed for the
>>> Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp as both that
>>> program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  DE n7zzt Eric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>    On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via chirp_users
>>>    <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      ?m trying to import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back to my
>>> radio.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      Steps I?ve taken:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to CHIRP
>>>      Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>      Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
>>>      Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting an unknown
>>> file format message
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      What am I missing?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      Thanks for any help!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      Steve
>>> 
>>>      KF0CPV
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    How did you edit the CSV file?
>>>    What did you change?
>>>    Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV file using
>> a
>>>    text editor?
>>>    Attach both the before and after CSV files to this conversation so
>>>    that they can be reviewed.
>>> 
>>>    The most common cause of trouble is...
>>> 
>>>    - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>    - The number of commas required at the end of a data row was changed.
>>> 
>>>    Jim KC9HI
>>>    _______________________________________________
>>>    chirp_users mailing list
>>>    [email protected]
>>>    http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>>>    This message was sent to Eric Oyen at [email protected]
>>>    To unsubscribe, send an email to
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing
>> list
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message
>>> was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at [email protected] To unsubscribe, send an
>>> email to [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions   tel +1-937-971-0366
>>> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail [email protected] www
>>> http://www.ngunn.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 12:00:29 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>        importing
>>> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>,   Glenn
>>>        K0LNY <[email protected]>
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Agreed. If you can, use Libre Office rather than a Microsoft product.
>>> Excel messes with the empty comma seperated fields at the end of each
>> row.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>    On 23/03/2021 11:37 Glenn K0LNY <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Well from the perspective of a screenreader user, I find editing
>>> things much easier to make changes in a spreadsheet program outside of
>>> Chirp and import them after the changes were made, so I would call that,
>>> the better way.
>>>>    Glenn
>>>> 
>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>    From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF mailto:[email protected]
>>>>    To: Eric Oyen mailto:[email protected] ; Eric Oyen via
>>> chirp_users mailto:[email protected]
>>>>    Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:45 AM
>>>>    Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>> importing
>>>> 
>>>>    The best way is not to use CSV files at all.
>>>> 
>>>>>>        On 23/03/2021 02:08 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <
>>> [email protected] mailto:
>>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>        One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a
>>> spreadsheet program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free
>> variants.
>>> Simply import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file.
>>> Compare the original to the new edited version to make sure the same
>> number
>>> of commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this
>>> on my windows box using excel and a program specifically designed for the
>>> Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp as both that
>>> program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same way.
>>>>> 
>>>>>        DE n7zzt Eric
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim
>> Unroe <
>>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>>            On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via
>>> chirp_users
>>>>>>            <[email protected] mailto:
>>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>                ?m trying to import a csv
>>> file into CHIRP to upload back to my radio.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>                Steps I?ve taken:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>                Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the
>>> memories to CHIRP
>>>>>>>                Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>>>>>                Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
>>>>>>>                Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur
>>> getting an unknown file format message
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>                What am I missing?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>                Thanks for any help!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>                Steve
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>                KF0CPV
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>            How did you edit the CSV file?
>>>>>>            What did you change?
>>>>>>            Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file
>>> CSV file using a
>>>>>>            text editor?
>>>>>>            Attach both the before and after CSV files to this
>>> conversation so
>>>>>>            that they can be reviewed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            The most common cause of trouble is...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>>>>            - The number of commas required at the end of a data
>> row
>>> was changed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            Jim KC9HI
>>>>>>            _______________________________________________
>>>>>>            chirp_users mailing list
>>>>>>            [email protected] mailto:
>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>            This message was sent to Eric Oyen at
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions   tel
>>> +1-937-971-0366
>>>>    Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail [email protected]
>>> www http://www.ngunn.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:27:36 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 147, Issue 8
>> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>,   Jim Self
>>        <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> Follow the instruction at the bottom of every email that you recieve from
>> this list but obviously don't read.
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>> 
>>>>    On 23/03/2021 15:35 Jim Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Please remove me from your mailing list.
>>> 
>>>    Turn Social Media and TV News off and all of the pain in the world
>> goes away. You're welcome.
>>> 
>>>    On Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 3:01 PM <
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Send chirp_users mailing list submissions to
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>>>> 
>>>>        Today's Topics:
>>>> 
>>>>           1. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing (Eric
>> Oyen)
>>>>           2. Re: Chirp does not work on my Baofeng UV-5R radio, I am
>>>>              deleting the program!!! (Eric Oyen)
>>>>           3. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing
>>>>              (D.J.J. Ring, Jr.)
>>>>           4. Help - Programing ICOM handheld IC-2GXET and IC-T7E
>> (Allan Carson)
>>>>           5. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing
>>>>              (Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF)
>>>>           6. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing (Glenn
>> K0LNY)
>>>>           7. Re: I get an "unknown file format" when importing
>>>>              (Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>>        Message: 1
>>>>        Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 23:08:39 -0700
>>>>        From: Eric Oyen <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >
>>>>        Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>>                importing
>>>>        To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected] >
>>>>        Message-ID: <[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected] >
>>>>        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> 
>>>>        One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a
>> spreadsheet program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants.
>> Simply import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file.
>> Compare the original to the new edited version to make sure the same number
>> of commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this
>> on my windows box using excel and a program specifically designed for the
>> Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp as both that
>> program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same way.
>>>> 
>>>>        DE n7zzt Eric
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via
>> chirp_users
>>>>> <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] <mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?m trying to import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back to
>> my radio.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steps I?ve taken:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to
>> CHIRP
>>>>>> Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>>>> Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
>>>>>> Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting an
>> unknown file format message
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for any help!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> KF0CPV
>>>>> 
>>>>> How did you edit the CSV file?
>>>>> What did you change?
>>>>> Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV
>> file using a
>>>>> text editor?
>>>>> Attach both the before and after CSV files to this
>> conversation so
>>>>> that they can be reviewed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The most common cause of trouble is...
>>>>> 
>>>>> - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>>> - The number of commas required at the end of a data row was
>> changed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim KC9HI
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> chirp_users mailing list
>>>>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] <mailto:
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>> mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
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>>>>        Message: 2
>>>>        Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 23:20:55 -0700
>>>>        From: Eric Oyen <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >
>>>>        Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp does not work on my Baofeng
>> UV-5R
>>>>                radio, I am deleting the program!!!
>>>>        To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected] >
>>>>        Message-ID: <[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected] >
>>>>        Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>>>> 
>>>>        Well, it certainly is handy to have the extra links. Always
>> convenient to have local copies just in case. :)
>>>> 
>>>>        DE N7zzt Eric
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:45 AM, Jim Unroe <[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 12:39 AM Glenn K0LNY <
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I only program my UV 5R with Chirp in Linux.
>>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My guess would be that is because your programming cable has
>> a
>>>>> Prolific type USB-to-Serial chip.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For Windows you would need to download and install the older
>> Prolific
>>>>> v3.2.0.0 device driver.
>>>>> https://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php
>>>>> 
>>>>> For macOS you would have to purchase a 3rd party device
>> driver
>>>>> (Catalina and earlier. No Big Sur support yet.).
>>>>> https://www.mac-usb-serial.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linux doesn't need this extra bit of TLC because the device
>> drivers
>>>>> are open source (and don't come from the Prolific company).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim KC9HI
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> chirp_users mailing list
>>>>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>>>>> This message was sent to Eric Oyen at [email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>>        Message: 3
>>>>        Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:59:47 -0400
>>>>        From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] >
>>>>        Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>>                importing
>>>>        To: Eric Oyen <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >,   Discussion of CHIRP
>>>>                <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >
>>>>        Message-ID:
>>>>                <CADO5RbjSUHQBUygWF+3L6u2pTT1=
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> m9ycogax18wuflv%[email protected] >
>>>>        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>> 
>>>>        If I'm not mistaken, there was an issue of Microsoft Excel not
>> editing
>>>>        the csv files correctly and when opening such a file up and
>> saving it
>>>>        again, it introduced errors.
>>>> 
>>>>        Such errors did NOT occur with the use of LibreOffice (or
>> OpenOffice)
>>>>        which is available for Windows, Mac OX-X, and Linux.
>>>> 
>>>>        OpenOffice download: https://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>>>        LibreOffice download:
>> https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/
>>>>        (currently out of order)
>>>>        LibreOffice download:
>>>>        http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/libreoffice/stable/7.1.1/
>>>> 
>>>>        If Microsoft Excel no longer introduces errors, someone please
>> correct me.
>>>> 
>>>>        73
>>>> 
>>>>        DR
>>>>        N1EA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:10 AM Eric Oyen via chirp_users
>>>>        <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a
>> spreadsheet program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants.
>> Simply import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file.
>> Compare the original to the new edited version to make sure the same number
>> of commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this
>> on my windows box using excel and a program specifically designed for the
>> Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp as both that
>> program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> DE n7zzt Eric
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via
>> chirp_users
>>>>> <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?m trying to import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back to
>> my radio.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steps I?ve taken:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to CHIRP
>>>>> Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>>> Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
>>>>> Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting an
>> unknown file format message
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any help!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> KF0CPV
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> How did you edit the CSV file?
>>>>> What did you change?
>>>>> Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV
>> file using a
>>>>> text editor?
>>>>> Attach both the before and after CSV files to this
>> conversation so
>>>>> that they can be reviewed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The most common cause of trouble is...
>>>>> 
>>>>> - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>>> - The number of commas required at the end of a data row was
>> changed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim KC9HI
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> chirp_users mailing list
>>>>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>>>>> This message was sent to Eric Oyen at [email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> chirp_users mailing list
>>>>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>>>>> This message was sent to D.J.J. Ring, Jr. at [email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>> [email protected] mailto:
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>>        Message: 4
>>>>        Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 12:23:15 +0200
>>>>        From: Allan Carson <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >
>>>>        Subject: [chirp_users] Help - Programing ICOM handheld
>> IC-2GXET and
>>>>                IC-T7E
>>>>        To: [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>>        Message-ID:
>>>>                <CANheJuSYdcmWorN0sQ_Rcyf6H_G05afhNBtOiAWU=
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] >
>>>>        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> 
>>>>        Hi Chirp,
>>>> 
>>>>        Great job you guys are doing there - thanks!
>>>> 
>>>>        Can you please give me some help - I have a multi-function
>> JiYKR cable
>>>>        to program my radios, but I can't seem to be able to get in to
>> change or
>>>>        save any of the settings when I use the 'live' mode on Chirp.
>> Could you
>>>>        give me some info on how to use the live mode and or suggest
>> any other
>>>>        versions that I can use to program the IC-2GXET and IC-T7E?
>>>> 
>>>>        Thanks for your help
>>>> 
>>>>        73
>>>> 
>>>>        Allan - ZS1AL
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>>>>        Message: 5
>>>>        Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 08:45:46 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>        From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >
>>>>        Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>>                importing
>>>>        To: Eric Oyen <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >,   Eric Oyen via chirp_users
>>>>                <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >
>>>>        Message-ID: <[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected] >
>>>>        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> 
>>>>        The best way is not to use CSV files at all.
>>>> 
>>>>>    On 23/03/2021 02:08 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a
>> spreadsheet program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants.
>> Simply import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file.
>> Compare the original to the new edited version to make sure the same number
>> of commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this
>> on my windows box using excel and a program specifically designed for the
>> Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp as both that
>> program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same way.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    DE n7zzt Eric
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>>        On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli
>> via chirp_users
>>>>>>        <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>            ?m trying to import a csv
>> file into CHIRP to upload back to my radio.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            Steps I?ve taken:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the
>> memories to CHIRP
>>>>>>>            Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>>>>>            Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
>>>>>>>            Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP
>> bur getting an unknown file format message
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            What am I missing?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            Thanks for any help!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            Steve
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            KF0CPV
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>        How did you edit the CSV file?
>>>>>>        What did you change?
>>>>>>        Did you compare the new CSV file to the original
>> file CSV file using a
>>>>>>        text editor?
>>>>>>        Attach both the before and after CSV files to this
>> conversation so
>>>>>>        that they can be reviewed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        The most common cause of trouble is...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>>>>        - The number of commas required at the end of a
>> data row was changed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        Jim KC9HI
>>>>>>        _______________________________________________
>>>>>>        chirp_users mailing list
>>>>>>        [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>>>> 
>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>>>>>>        This message was sent to Eric Oyen at
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>>        To unsubscribe, send an email to
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>    _______________________________________________
>> chirp_users mailing list [email protected] mailto:
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>> was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions   tel
>> +1-937-971-0366
>>>>        Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail
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>>>>        Message: 6
>>>>        Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 10:37:38 -0500
>>>>        From: "Glenn K0LNY" <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >
>>>>        Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>>                importing
>>>>        To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected] >
>>>>        Message-ID: <0a9b01d71ffa$7528c450$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH>
>>>>        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> 
>>>>        Well from the perspective of a screenreader user, I find
>> editing things much easier to make changes in a spreadsheet program outside
>> of Chirp and import them after the changes were made, so I would call that,
>> the better way.
>>>>        Glenn
>>>> 
>>>>        ----- Original Message -----
>>>>        From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
>>>>        To: Eric Oyen ; Eric Oyen via chirp_users
>>>>        Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:45 AM
>>>>        Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>> importing
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        The best way is not to use CSV files at all.
>>>>          On 23/03/2021 02:08 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>          One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a
>> spreadsheet program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants.
>> Simply import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file.
>> Compare the original to the new edited version to make sure the same number
>> of commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this
>> on my windows box using excel and a program specifically designed for the
>> Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp as both that
>> program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same way.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>          DE n7zzt Eric
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>            On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via
>> chirp_users
>>>>            <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>              ?m trying to import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back
>> to my radio.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>              Steps I?ve taken:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>              Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to
>> CHIRP
>>>>              Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>>              Added the new frequencies to the CSV file
>>>>              Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting
>> an unknown file format message
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>              What am I missing?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>              Thanks for any help!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>              Steve
>>>> 
>>>>              KF0CPV
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            How did you edit the CSV file?
>>>>            What did you change?
>>>>            Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV
>> file using a
>>>>            text editor?
>>>>            Attach both the before and after CSV files to this
>> conversation so
>>>>            that they can be reviewed.
>>>> 
>>>>            The most common cause of trouble is...
>>>> 
>>>>            - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>>            - The number of commas required at the end of a data row
>> was changed.
>>>> 
>>>>            Jim KC9HI
>>>>            _______________________________________________
>>>>            chirp_users mailing list
>>>>            [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>>            http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>>>>            This message was sent to Eric Oyen at [email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected]
>>>>            To unsubscribe, send an email to
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>          _______________________________________________ chirp_users
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>>>>        From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] >
>>>>        Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>>>>                importing
>>>>        To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected] >,   Glenn
>>>>                K0LNY <[email protected] mailto:
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>>>>        Message-ID: <[email protected]
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>>>> 
>>>>        Agreed. If you can, use Libre Office rather than a Microsoft
>> product. Excel messes with the empty comma seperated fields at the end of
>> each row.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>    On 23/03/2021 11:37 Glenn K0LNY <[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Well from the perspective of a screenreader user, I find
>> editing things much easier to make changes in a spreadsheet program outside
>> of Chirp and import them after the changes were made, so I would call that,
>> the better way.
>>>>>    Glenn
>>>>> 
>>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>    From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF mailto:[email protected]
>> mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>    To: Eric Oyen mailto:[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] ; Eric Oyen via chirp_users mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected]
>>>>>    Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:45 AM
>>>>>    Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file
>> format" when importing
>>>>> 
>>>>>    The best way is not to use CSV files at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        On 23/03/2021 02:08 Eric Oyen via
>> chirp_users <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to
>> use a spreadsheet program like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free
>> variants. Simply import as a cSV, do your editing, then export back to a
>> CSV file. Compare the original to the new edited version to make sure the
>> same number of commas are in place on the right lines. BTW, I have already
>> tried this on my windows box using excel and a program specifically
>> designed for the Baofeng radio. So, it should work the same way with chirp
>> as both that program and cHIRP should read or write CSV files in the same
>> way.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        DE n7zzt Eric
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>            On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39
>> AM, Jim Unroe <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>>>            On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve
>> Vecchiarelli via chirp_users
>>>>>>>            <[email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] mailto:
>> [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>                ?m trying to
>> import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back to my radio.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>                Steps I?ve taken:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>                Connected radio to CHIRP and
>> downloaded the memories to CHIRP
>>>>>>>>                Exported memories to a CSV file
>>>>>>>>                Added the new frequencies to the CSV
>> file
>>>>>>>>                Saved CSV and tried to import back to
>> CHIRP bur getting an unknown file format message
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>                What am I missing?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>                Thanks for any help!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>                Steve
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>                KF0CPV
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>            How did you edit the CSV
>> file?
>>>>>>>            What did you change?
>>>>>>>            Did you compare the new CSV file to the
>> original file CSV file using a
>>>>>>>            text editor?
>>>>>>>            Attach both the before and after CSV files
>> to this conversation so
>>>>>>>            that they can be reviewed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            The most common cause of trouble is...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            - The data format of a cell was changed.
>>>>>>>            - The number of commas required at the end
>> of a data row was changed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            Jim KC9HI
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>>>>>    Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail
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>> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 22:18:09 -0600
>> From: JP Bernier <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [chirp_users] WinXP issue
>> To: [email protected]
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>> Hi,
>> I have an old (ancient)  Kenwood TM-V7A that I've programmed in the past
>> with a long-dead WinXP laptop.  The Kenwood had the chronic screen failure
>> years ago that I had a weird hair to fix, and did with success! Now I want
>> to update the programming. I found a functioning XP laptop and  I've jumped
>> through 10k hoops getting my modern Yaesu/ Prolific USB cable to talk to
>> WInXP, but I got that to work finally (with a deeply buried legacy
>> driver)... now I'm trying to install CHIRP on on the XP laptop so I can
>> import my current .csv file and put it on the Kenwood.  I get: "This
>> application has failed to start because the application configuration is
>> incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix the problem" (it doesn't).
>> I think a legacy version (2004'ish?) of CHIRP might be the thing, but I
>> don't know where to find it on the CHIRP website.
>> 
>> Conversely, I have the ancient Kenwood MCP_V7 software successfully
>> installed on the XP, but it doesn't seem to import anything at all. Not
>> sure the point of software that only reads the radio without the ability to
>> import data to upload, but whatever.  If anyone knows how to get a .csv
>> file into that it would get the job done just as well.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> JP.  KF7QJY
>> 
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 07:05:53 -0400
>> From: John Mehl <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] WinXP issue
>> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>
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>> Hi JP, I don't know if this would help but the current version of CHIRP
>> supports the Kewood TM V7. It might be worth trying to see if your
>> programming cable will work with it.   Just a thought.....John
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:18 AM JP Bernier <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I have an old (ancient)  Kenwood TM-V7A that I've programmed in the past
>>> with a long-dead WinXP laptop.  The Kenwood had the chronic screen
>> failure
>>> years ago that I had a weird hair to fix, and did with success! Now I
>> want
>>> to update the programming. I found a functioning XP laptop and  I've
>> jumped
>>> through 10k hoops getting my modern Yaesu/ Prolific USB cable to talk to
>>> WInXP, but I got that to work finally (with a deeply buried legacy
>>> driver)... now I'm trying to install CHIRP on on the XP laptop so I can
>>> import my current .csv file and put it on the Kenwood.  I get: "This
>>> application has failed to start because the application configuration is
>>> incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix the problem" (it
>> doesn't).
>>> I think a legacy version (2004'ish?) of CHIRP might be the thing, but I
>>> don't know where to find it on the CHIRP website.
>>> 
>>> Conversely, I have the ancient Kenwood MCP_V7 software successfully
>>> installed on the XP, but it doesn't seem to import anything at all. Not
>>> sure the point of software that only reads the radio without the ability
>> to
>>> import data to upload, but whatever.  If anyone knows how to get a .csv
>>> file into that it would get the job done just as well.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> JP.  KF7QJY
>>> 
>>> 
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>> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 08:07:44 -0400
>> From: Jim Unroe <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] WinXP issue
>> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID:
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>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:18 AM JP Bernier <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I have an old (ancient)  Kenwood TM-V7A that I've programmed in the past
>> with a long-dead WinXP laptop.  The Kenwood had the chronic screen failure
>> years ago that I had a weird hair to fix, and did with success! Now I want
>> to update the programming. I found a functioning XP laptop and  I've jumped
>> through 10k hoops getting my modern Yaesu/ Prolific USB cable to talk to
>> WInXP, but I got that to work finally (with a deeply buried legacy
>> driver)... now I'm trying to install CHIRP on on the XP laptop so I can
>> import my current .csv file and put it on the Kenwood.  I get: "This
>> application has failed to start because the application configuration is
>> incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix the problem" (it doesn't).
>> I think a legacy version (2004'ish?) of CHIRP might be the thing, but I
>> don't know where to find it on the CHIRP website.
>>> 
>>> Conversely, I have the ancient Kenwood MCP_V7 software successfully
>> installed on the XP, but it doesn't seem to import anything at all. Not
>> sure the point of software that only reads the radio without the ability to
>> import data to upload, but whatever.  If anyone knows how to get a .csv
>> file into that it would get the job done just as well.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> JP.  KF7QJY
>> 
>> JP,
>> 
>> You don't have the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable
>> Package installed. See this link on the miklor.com website.
>> 
>> https://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_ErrorMess.php#error20
>> 
>> Jim KC9HI
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 08:02:12 -0600
>> From: JP Bernier <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] WinXP issue
>> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Thanks Jim, I'll give that a shot.
>> JP
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 6:09 AM Jim Unroe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:18 AM JP Bernier <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have an old (ancient)  Kenwood TM-V7A that I've programmed in the
>> past
>>> with a long-dead WinXP laptop.  The Kenwood had the chronic screen
>> failure
>>> years ago that I had a weird hair to fix, and did with success! Now I
>> want
>>> to update the programming. I found a functioning XP laptop and  I've
>> jumped
>>> through 10k hoops getting my modern Yaesu/ Prolific USB cable to talk to
>>> WInXP, but I got that to work finally (with a deeply buried legacy
>>> driver)... now I'm trying to install CHIRP on on the XP laptop so I can
>>> import my current .csv file and put it on the Kenwood.  I get: "This
>>> application has failed to start because the application configuration is
>>> incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix the problem" (it
>> doesn't).
>>> I think a legacy version (2004'ish?) of CHIRP might be the thing, but I
>>> don't know where to find it on the CHIRP website.
>>>> 
>>>> Conversely, I have the ancient Kenwood MCP_V7 software successfully
>>> installed on the XP, but it doesn't seem to import anything at all. Not
>>> sure the point of software that only reads the radio without the ability
>> to
>>> import data to upload, but whatever.  If anyone knows how to get a .csv
>>> file into that it would get the job done just as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> JP.  KF7QJY
>>> 
>>> JP,
>>> 
>>> You don't have the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable
>>> Package installed. See this link on the miklor.com website.
>>> 
>>> https://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_ErrorMess.php#error20
>>> 
>>> Jim KC9HI
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> Subject: [chirp_users] Rugged Radio V3
> To: <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Hi
> 
> Has anyone found a software selection that works with the newish Rugged
> Radio V3 handheld for programming?
> 
> 
> 
> Kevin
> 
> KJ7IWY
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> Las Vegas NV
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> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:11:23 -0400
> From: Jim Unroe <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rugged Radio V3
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>
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>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 4:45 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Has anyone found a software selection that works with the newish Rugged 
>> Radio V3 handheld for programming?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> KJ7IWY
>> 
>> Las Vegas NV
> 
> It looks like a TYT model (TH-UV-F9).
> 
> Jim KC9HI
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 08:51:43 -0700
> From: Eric Oyen <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>    importing
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hey Nigel?
> 
> I am going to ask something here, and it might get you irritated, but please 
> understand that it is important and also within the context of this group.
> 
> Do you have any kind of visual impairment that negatively impacts your 
> ability to use specific software on whatever platform you choose to use?
> 
> I can tell you right now, if you don?t, then you don?t have any real 
> understanding of the problems that me and others on this list (who do) have 
> when it comes to software. Screen readers and braille displays are pretty 
> much a must when you can?t see the screen.
> 
> Now, someone suggested the use of Libre office. That?s all fine and good if 
> you are on a Linux OS. Not so useful on either the OS X or windows platforms 
> when a screen reader/braille display is in use.. This means we are limited in 
> what we can (or can?t) use on a given platform at a given time and set of 
> circumstances. The same is true for CHIRP. I can only use it on Linux and no 
> where else.
> 
> Also, on the subject of CSV and TSV files, both of those are standardized 
> formats that shouldn?t be presenting any issues. I use the 2010 version of 
> excel and word here on the windows machine as nothing later is supported 
> (it?s windows 7). So far, I have not encounter the issues you spoke of. If MS 
> excel is introducing these types of errors, then they broke something and are 
> violating standardized formats doing so.
> 
> Now, as for me, I am totally blind (literally). I have no light perception, 
> so I expect all my tools to work in an expected fashion. If they don?t, then 
> I am in serious trouble. This pretty much means that I have to be very 
> conversant with them and how they work at the software/hardware level.
> 
> So, when it comes to CHIRP, I really wish it were fully accessible using 
> braille or screen reader on platforms other than just Linux. Until that 
> happens, I have to keep up on the latest tools (such as more specialized 
> radio programming software that is accessible on windows or OS X), office 
> packages that need to communicate with one another regardless of platform 
> etc. Unfortunately, being totally blind makes that rather more difficult 
> under the best of circumstances. So, unless you have a real understanding of 
> how those of us without sight have to function, then you really don?t have 
> any understanding at all. Oh, and if you *THINK* that wearing a blindfold 
> will help you understand, no it won?t. It?s because, at the end of the day, 
> you will still be able to take it off and use your eyes. Those of us who 
> don?t have that option have to spend longer doing some tasks, use alternative 
> methods to get our info, or even use radio programming software with tools 
> designed to work around
>  the lack of eyesight issue. The chirp package is no exception to this. If I 
> want to use windows to program my radios, I have to use RT systems on that oS 
> platform. I don?t get a choice. On OS X, there are NO accessible packages or 
> methodologies that will allow me to program a radio like my UV5R, or the 
> PK-888, the Retevus H777s, or even my midland g40. Most of these can be 
> handled by Chirp on linux and no where else for me. Now, lets see you try and 
> maintain 3 os platforms, on separate machines, having to know keyboard 
> commands for each screen reader, etc. I can do it because I am cursed with an 
> Eidetic memory. When I say cursed, I mean it. If any changes get made, I have 
> to account for those, etc. that means my head gets full and I have no way to 
> dump those memories. On the plus side, once I pick up something, I never lose 
> it again, ever.
> 
> Anyway, enough of my ranting on software, accessibility, etc.
> 
> DE n7zzt Eric
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Glenn K0LNY <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Well from the perspective of a screenreader user, I find editing things much 
>> easier to make changes in a spreadsheet program outside of Chirp and import 
>> them after the changes were made, so I would call that, the better way.
>> Glenn
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <mailto:[email protected]>
>> To: Eric Oyen <mailto:[email protected]> ; Eric Oyen via chirp_users 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when importing
>> 
>> The best way is not to use CSV files at all. 
>>>> On 23/03/2021 02:08 Eric Oyen via chirp_users 
>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a spreadsheet program 
>>> like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants. Simply import as a 
>>> cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file. Compare the original 
>>> to the new edited version to make sure the same number of commas are in 
>>> place on the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this on my windows box 
>>> using excel and a program specifically designed for the Baofeng radio. So, 
>>> it should work the same way with chirp as both that program and cHIRP 
>>> should read or write CSV files in the same way. 
>>> 
>>> DE n7zzt Eric 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via chirp_users 
>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?m trying to import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back to my radio. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steps I?ve taken: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to CHIRP 
>>>>> Exported memories to a CSV file 
>>>>> Added the new frequencies to the CSV file 
>>>>> Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting an unknown file 
>>>>> format message 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What am I missing? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any help! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve 
>>>>> 
>>>>> KF0CPV 
>>>> 
>>>> How did you edit the CSV file? 
>>>> What did you change? 
>>>> Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV file using a 
>>>> text editor? 
>>>> Attach both the before and after CSV files to this conversation so 
>>>> that they can be reviewed. 
>>>> 
>>>> The most common cause of trouble is... 
>>>> 
>>>> - The data format of a cell was changed. 
>>>> - The number of commas required at the end of a data row was changed. 
>>>> 
>>>> Jim KC9HI 
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> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:55:13 -0500
> From: "Eric" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when
>    importing
> To: "'Eric Oyen'" <[email protected]>,    "'Discussion of CHIRP'"
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> Eric,
> 
>               Make sure that Excel is not doing anything ?helpful? for you 
> during the CVS export.  I have seen many occasions where Excel tries to help 
> with CSV import and export and changes the data format.  One example is when 
> you have a very large number, Excel will convert it to scientific notation.
> 
> 
> 
> If you need help, you can email mail me and I will see if I can?t help you 
> with the Excel / CSV file.
> 
> 
> 
> Eric B
> 
> 
> 
> From: [email protected] 
> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Eric Oyen via 
> chirp_users
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 10:52 AM
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when importing
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Nigel?
> 
> 
> 
> I am going to ask something here, and it might get you irritated, but please 
> understand that it is important and also within the context of this group.
> 
> 
> 
> Do you have any kind of visual impairment that negatively impacts your 
> ability to use specific software on whatever platform you choose to use?
> 
> 
> 
> I can tell you right now, if you don?t, then you don?t have any real 
> understanding of the problems that me and others on this list (who do) have 
> when it comes to software. Screen readers and braille displays are pretty 
> much a must when you can?t see the screen.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, someone suggested the use of Libre office. That?s all fine and good if 
> you are on a Linux OS. Not so useful on either the OS X or windows platforms 
> when a screen reader/braille display is in use.. This means we are limited in 
> what we can (or can?t) use on a given platform at a given time and set of 
> circumstances. The same is true for CHIRP. I can only use it on Linux and no 
> where else.
> 
> 
> 
> Also, on the subject of CSV and TSV files, both of those are standardized 
> formats that shouldn?t be presenting any issues. I use the 2010 version of 
> excel and word here on the windows machine as nothing later is supported 
> (it?s windows 7). So far, I have not encounter the issues you spoke of. If MS 
> excel is introducing these types of errors, then they broke something and are 
> violating standardized formats doing so.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, as for me, I am totally blind (literally). I have no light perception, 
> so I expect all my tools to work in an expected fashion. If they don?t, then 
> I am in serious trouble. This pretty much means that I have to be very 
> conversant with them and how they work at the software/hardware level.
> 
> 
> 
> So, when it comes to CHIRP, I really wish it were fully accessible using 
> braille or screen reader on platforms other than just Linux. Until that 
> happens, I have to keep up on the latest tools (such as more specialized 
> radio programming software that is accessible on windows or OS X), office 
> packages that need to communicate with one another regardless of platform 
> etc. Unfortunately, being totally blind makes that rather more difficult 
> under the best of circumstances. So, unless you have a real understanding of 
> how those of us without sight have to function, then you really don?t have 
> any understanding at all. Oh, and if you *THINK* that wearing a blindfold 
> will help you understand, no it won?t. It?s because, at the end of the day, 
> you will still be able to take it off and use your eyes. Those of us who 
> don?t have that option have to spend longer doing some tasks, use alternative 
> methods to get our info, or even use radio programming software with tools 
> designed to work around
>  the lack of eyesight issue. The chirp package is no exception to this. If I 
> want to use windows to program my radios, I have to use RT systems on that oS 
> platform. I don?t get a choice. On OS X, there are NO accessible packages or 
> methodologies that will allow me to program a radio like my UV5R, or the 
> PK-888, the Retevus H777s, or even my midland g40. Most of these can be 
> handled by Chirp on linux and no where else for me. Now, lets see you try and 
> maintain 3 os platforms, on separate machines, having to know keyboard 
> commands for each screen reader, etc. I can do it because I am cursed with an 
> Eidetic memory. When I say cursed, I mean it. If any changes get made, I have 
> to account for those, etc. that means my head gets full and I have no way to 
> dump those memories. On the plus side, once I pick up something, I never lose 
> it again, ever.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, enough of my ranting on software, accessibility, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> DE n7zzt Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 23, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Glenn K0LNY <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Well from the perspective of a screenreader user, I find editing things much 
> easier to make changes in a spreadsheet program outside of Chirp and import 
> them after the changes were made, so I would call that, the better way.
> 
> Glenn
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <mailto:[email protected]> 
> 
> To: Eric Oyen <mailto:[email protected]>  ; Eric Oyen via chirp_users 
> <mailto:[email protected]> 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:45 AM
> 
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] I get an "unknown file format" when importing
> 
> 
> 
> The best way is not to use CSV files at all. 
> 
> On 23/03/2021 02:08 Eric Oyen via chirp_users 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> One good way I have found to edit CsV files is to use a spreadsheet program 
> like Microsoft excel or one of the linux free variants. Simply import as a 
> cSV, do your editing, then export back to a CSV file. Compare the original to 
> the new edited version to make sure the same number of commas are in place on 
> the right lines. BTW, I have already tried this on my windows box using excel 
> and a program specifically designed for the Baofeng radio. So, it should work 
> the same way with chirp as both that program and cHIRP should read or write 
> CSV files in the same way. 
> 
> 
> 
> DE n7zzt Eric 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jim Unroe <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:25 PM Steve Vecchiarelli via chirp_users 
> < <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ?m trying to import a csv file into CHIRP to upload back to my radio. 
> 
> 
> 
> Steps I?ve taken: 
> 
> 
> 
> Connected radio to CHIRP and downloaded the memories to CHIRP 
> Exported memories to a CSV file 
> Added the new frequencies to the CSV file 
> Saved CSV and tried to import back to CHIRP bur getting an unknown file 
> format message 
> 
> 
> 
> What am I missing? 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help! 
> 
> 
> 
> Steve 
> 
> KF0CPV 
> 
> 
> How did you edit the CSV file? 
> What did you change? 
> Did you compare the new CSV file to the original file CSV file using a 
> text editor? 
> Attach both the before and after CSV files to this conversation so 
> that they can be reviewed. 
> 
> The most common cause of trouble is... 
> 
> - The data format of a cell was changed. 
> - The number of commas required at the end of a data row was changed. 
> 
> Jim KC9HI 
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