There is an on-line interview/discussion about Trotsky at 
http://fora.tv/2009/07/28/Uncommon_Knowledge_Christopher_Hitchens__Robert_Service
 that I found quite interesting.  Churchill is hardly mentioned, but the 
discussion delves into assessing the character, actions, motivations and legacy 
of Trotsky.  To this extent it addresses the question: Was Churchill on the 
mark with his comments?  

Stan   
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  From: Carey Stronach 
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  Subject: [ChurchillChat] Churchill and Trotsky


  In his recent book, "In Defense Of Leon Trotsky," David North quotes WSC as 
saying of Trotsky in 1937, "Like the cancer bacillus he grew, he fed, he 
tortured, he slew in fulfillment of his nature."


  Was Churchill on the mark with these comments, or was he mistaken, possibly 
grossly mistaken (as North claims)? The Russian revolution was terribly bloody, 
but many, perhaps most, of the atrocities were committed on the orders of 
others, Lenin, Stalin and the NKVD.


  It's a fascinating, but ultimately frustrating, game to construct alternative 
 histories. Trotsky lost the power struggle with Stalin in 1927 and left the 
Soviet Union in fear of his life in 1929. (He was eventually murdered in Mexico 
by a Stalinist thug in 1940.) The worst horrors of the Soviet regime lay in the 
future, the Ukrainian famine of 1931-33, and the great purge of 1937-38. The 
book "Bloodlands," by Timothy Snyder, documents these terrors in excruciating 
detail, as does the historical novel "Everything Flows," by Vasily Grossman.


  Let us assume for the moment that Trotsky had defeated Stalin in the 1920s. 
Would the Soviet people have accepted a Jewish leader? Would the USSR have 
morphed into a social democracy along the lines of a Slavic Sweden? Or would 
there have been a coup, perhaps led by the army, that might have brought a 
right-wing dictatorship to power? If Trotsky had prevailed, World War II might 
never have happened, at least not along the lines of what actually took place. 
This is because a Trotsky - Hitler pact would have been utterly unthinkable, 
indeed laughable in its absurdity. Then Britain and Churchill would not have 
had to endure the supreme challenge of 1940-41, and WSC might have ended his 
career as a relatively unknown back bencher.


  This chat group has been relatively quiet recently. I know that there are a 
number of distinguished scholars present, from both right and left. Maybe this 
topic will draw out some interesting and divergent opinions. 


  CES







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