There appears to be a general perception that Churchill's early works are in
the public domain - Malakand, London to Ladysmith, Ian Hamilton, and River
War - and hence they are the ones mostly commonly pounced on by the
print-on-demand vultures.

 

I cannot judge if this perception is accurate or not.  However, there is a
very interesting exchange of letters in the Churchill archives which may
cast some light.  See CHAR 8/274 120, 121 and 124.

 

Churchill, in July 1930, writes to Longmans Green indicating that he wishes
to quote passages from those works in 'My Early Life' which was then in the
later stages of composition.  He indicates that, since the works have long
been out of print, the Longmans copyright may have expired but that in any
case he is looking for their permission and coyly suggests that they might
wish to return the rights to him.  He makes an offer of payment but, knowing
WSC, it is clearly half-hearted at best.

 

Longmans respond that they are happy to transfer 'such rights as we may have
in the copyright to yourself. For this we should not like to ask any
payment'. 

 

It seems, therefore, that Longmans actively relinquished their copyright
back to WSC - but the key question is still whether, in 1930, they still
retained any rights to relinquish. 

 

I would gladly quote the two letters in their entirety but, ironically,
copyright considerations prevent me doing so.

 

Best,

 

Dave 

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Robert Courts
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: WSC Goes Electronic

 

No, it isn't. I think I drew this to their attention about 10 years ago, but
the result escapes me. But list members might like to just hold off on
Gutenberg until we know. 

 

 

On 20 Jun 2012, at 08:53, Allen Packwood wrote:





Many thanks Robert. The copyright question would be one for Curtis Brown.
the one thing I have learned is that it is never as straightforward as you
think!

 

Allen

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Raphael Saldanha
Sent: 19 June 2012 17:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: WSC Goes Electronic

Oh! I'm sorry about the misleading link. Thanks for the correct one.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Robert Courts <[email protected]> wrote:

Allen is right about that, but these are our WSC: 

 

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/1601

 

I've always wondered about the copyright position. 

 

These early books are available on the Amazon Kindle store, in fact. 

 

 

On 19 Jun 2012, at 17:07, Allen Packwood wrote:





I am afraid that this is the US author Winston Churchill, not our Winston
Spencer-Churchill.

 

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On Behalf Of Raphael Saldanha
Sent: 19 June 2012 16:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: WSC Goes Electronic

This appears to be a very nice project. But what can be said about the files
available at the Project Gutenberg?
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/213 Are they good sources?

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Editor, Finest Hour
<[email protected]> wrote:

Jonathan: I had the pleasure of helping steer them to the right editions
(not those edited Collected Works-Leo Cooper ones monkeyed with by Fred
Woods), and Mark Weber found them inexpensive copies with true texts they
could scan. The result will be Churchill's words as he signed off on them.
Reported in full in Finest Hour 155/Summer. We cannot underestimate the
importance of this step forward. Huge credit to Gordon Wise at Curtis Brown
who drove the effort.

 

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