I had the pleasure of being a guest in Sir Martin's home for tea many years ago. The conversation turned to "The Wilderness Years. Sir Martin said that some characters were combined intio one, some events were compressed in time, and some events were pure fantasy. He was not happy with that. Regards-Jonah
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy. -------- Original message -------- From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat <churchillchat@googlegroups.com> Date:07/18/2015 6:03 AM (GMT-05:00) To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: secret informants in 'In Search of Churchill' Dear Ms Finnegan, Thanks to the excellent index, as usual, I was able to find the relevant passage almost immediately : it runs from p.131 to p.135. Incidentally, reading that passage again, I noticed that Sir Martin suggests that Ralph Wigram died of polio (bottom of p.133). But in the excellent TV series, _The Wilderness Years_* (for which I seem to remember that Sir Martin was historical adviser), Ralph Wigram is shown as committing suicide. Any lights from List Members on this apparent contradiction ? Best wishes, A.C. *Easily available on DVD, and unreservedly recommended =========== From: Pat Finnegan Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:19 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: stories in 'In Search of Churchill' Hello, Professor Capet-- I think there was one story about how Sir Martin tracked down a man who had secretly given Churchill some reports about what Hitler and the Nazis were doing during the 1930s--without PM Chamberlain's knowledge. The man was afraid that he would be killed--or at least seriously injured--if the truth came out. I don't remember if Sir Martin mentioned the man's name, or gave him a pseudonym. But the gentleman was afraid--even after more than several decades! Now I'll have to re-read 'In Search of Churchill' again! (Ms.) Pat Finnegan On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:01 PM, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat <churchillchat@googlegroups.com> wrote: Dear Ms Finnegan, When you write "the stories of how he tracked down so many of Churchill's colleagues were both very amusing--and something of a 'spy novel'!" I do not know which is your favourite. For my part, I was left speechless when I read how he had "tracked down" the estate agent (realtor, I think, in American English) who negotiated the transaction for Chartwell - so many years after the event ! This is definitely my favourite story in the book. Best wishes, A.C. ===== From: PatFinn1940 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:53 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Another Image of Churchill I have that 'warmer' photo by Karsh on my copy of Sir Martin's one-volume Churchill biography (it was the first book Sir Martin sent me, after we began our correspondence in 2006). It's one of my favorite Churchill photos. I wonder how Karsh got him to smile for it, after the 'scowling lion' one was taken? And you are right about 'In Search of Churchill' being a 'masterpiece'. It helped a lot with the background of how the young Martin Gilbert became the 'official' biographer after Randolph Churchill's death. And the stories of how he tracked down so many of Churchill's colleagues were both very amusing--and something of a 'spy novel'! (Ms.) Pat Finnegan On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 4:47:32 PM UTC-4, Antoine Capet wrote: Dear Terry, No harm done in anglicising Adolf - except that the custom among historians is to anglicise the (first) names of kings, emperors and popes : perhaps too great an honour for "that man". On a more serious note : I was struck when recently reading the late Sir Martin's masterpiece, _ In Search of Churchill_ (by the way, many thanks to the List Members who wrote it was priority reading - they were absolutely right) that he said why he had rejected that world-famous portrait in favour of a warmer one (albeit also by Karsh at the same session) for the photograph on his dust cover. Was he influenced by Clementine's opinion (which he no doubt knew) ? - that will remain forever an interesting question. Best, A.C. ================== From: Terry Reardon Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 9:57 PM To: church...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Another Image of Churchill OOPS! Before someone comments - of course it should be Adolf. Terry Reardon From: Terry Reardon Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:53 PM To: church...@googlegroups.com Subject: [ChurchillChat] Another Image of Churchill We clearly know the opinion of Winston and Clementine on the Graham Sutherland painting, but what was their opinion of the “Roaring Lion” photograph by Yousuf Karsh? While to the best of my knowledge Winston Churchill is not on record as having given an opinion, we do have his reaction by way of Clementine. As I said in my book (take every opportunity!) on Churchill & Mackenzie King, the diary of King of May 6, 1944 recorded a conversation with Clementine. “She (Clementine) does not like the Karsh picture, neither does Churchill himself. She said ‘He really has a more playful expression about his mouth.’” Now I wonder if Adolph Hitler ever commented on it! Terry Reardon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. 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