I believe part of the problem is the proposition that fiction entails the right 
to carte blanche in its lack of necessary relation to reality.  A tricky notion 
when dealing with real people and events. Fiction could easily place Lincoln at 
a tea party with a representative sample of freed slaves, swapping dirty jokes. 
 It could equally have the President of the United States dancing in a mu-mu at 
the funeral of Robert Mugabe, while Theresa May plays the bongos.  Fiction, so 
no harm, no foul.  

 

However, I would be far more interested to hear the thoughts of this forum as 
to why “it will bring a new audience to Churchill and then history will have a 
chance to be relevant”.  Would anyone care to explain why WSC will be relevant 
to someone born in, say, 2000?  More so than Gladstone, Walpole, or Elizabeth I?

 

Dave

 

 

From: 'Parker Lee' via ChurchillChat [mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:14 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

 

Thanks Mr Riddle and Mr Smith for pointing out the qualities of a very 
entertaining and well made movie. Dr Mather, I doubt if any professor would ask 
students to identify historical inaccuracies in a work of fiction. Say what ? 
The film is fiction, but it will bring a new audience to Churchill and then 
history will have a chance to be relevant. 

Parker H. Lee III

Richmond, VA


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On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:52 PM, 'John Mather' via ChurchillChat 
<churchillchat@googlegroups.com <mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

"Overwrought". Amazing vilification of those who have some sense that 
'historical fiction' has a real responsibility to comport itself somewhat close 
to the factual base. Unfortunately this production does a significant 
disservice to the current younger generation. Maybe a professor who is doing a 
course on WSC could assign a term paper  that has to identify and provide 
details on the many inaccuracies by both commission and omission. At least then 
there is a chance that this is not "gospel" fiction for a new younger 
generation who might yet come to greatly admire the savior of Western 
democracy. Oh you think that is an 'overwrought' conclusion on my part! 
Goodness gracious me. John H. Mather MD FACPE

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On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Smith, James M <jamesmsm...@dwt.com 
<mailto:jamesmsm...@dwt.com> > wrote:

Well put, Mr. Riddle.  This is avowedly a work of FICTION; accordingly, it does 
not need to adhere to fact.  As fiction, it was well acted, beautifully filmed 
and very entertaining; and indeed it reflects well on WSC.  It shows new and 
young audiences the greatness and inner strength of the man.  Overwrought 
complaints over factual inaccuracy are, well, overwrought.  

 

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Seattle | Shanghai | Washington, D.C.

 

From:  <mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com> churchillchat@googlegroups.com [ 
<mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com> mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Riddle
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 4:19 PM
To:  <mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com> churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

 

I think everyone who has commented to date on this film is treating this film 
far too seriously.

 

It is freely based on a work of fiction 'The Churchill Secret KBO' by Jonathan 
Smith. The critical word here is 'fiction'. There is no point in trying to 
relate it to the actual facts of the situation, even if anyone, living or 
otherwise, believes they know what they really were. After all, the whole event 
was kept secret, so the real truth is pretty difficult to ascertain.

 

The character of the nurse is freely admitted to be fictional, as are some of 
the other situations portrayed in the film.

 

Fundamentally, the piece should be viewed as a largely fictional drama, and in 
my view, as well as that of several of my fellow volunteer House Stewards at 
Chartwell at least, it was well produced with some good performances and 
enjoyable in its own right.

David Riddle

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On 13 Sep 2016, at 18:11, Cita Stelzer <c...@irwinstelzer.com 
<mailto:c...@irwinstelzer.com> > wrote:

Whether “Churchill‘s Secret”, broadcast in the USA last night, was riveting 
television I leave to the critics. But that it was historically inaccurate at 
one important point there is no doubt. Lindsay Duncan’s beautifully acted 
television version of Clemmie as a wife competing with his political career for 
his time and attention has no relation to the real-life version. Clementine 
Churchill, as I point out in my review of Sonia Purnell’s biography of 
Clementine Churchill, was no whining woman at odds with her husband’s political 
life. In fact, Clemmie was a full partner in his political career, entertaining 
politicians and military figures when he was away in the trenches in WWI. And 
as any fair reading of their voluminous correspondence shows, offering wise 
advice to the often impetuous-Winston, advice that prolonged his career. Not 
only was she a full partner in his work, she had a full and rich life of her 
own, witness her fund-raising work for the Red Cross’s Aid to the Soviet Union. 
Kudos to Ms. Duncan, and don’t blame her for being asked to portray the fiction 
of a novelist’s imagination.

 

Cita Stelzer

 

 

 

 

 

Cita Stelzer

 

Please note new email address:

 <mailto:c...@irwinstelzer.com> c...@irwinstelzer.com

 

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