Begin what I wanted to send:
Some of you haven't the foggiest what
this is all about. I didn't forward the article when I received it
because I had a feeling it was not credible. Checking who thesource was
also raised my suspician even more. The article at the bottom (below
Buchanan rebuttal) got swollowed hook, line and sinker by a whole lot
of people. Many were also smarted than that. I hope now the people I
have wanted to explain to why Stew Web and Barb Hartwell (Barb is not a
part of article) are not
credible, the timing couldn't have been better. -Madd Maxx
Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Last 2 responses on Chicago
"Indictment" story
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 00:06:30 +0200 (MEST)
From: Nico Haupt < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tom Flocco Officially Discredited
John Buchanan
Tom,
I'm sure you know who I am and know of my work as an
investigative reporter
and author. If not, it is easy to Google me and figure it out.
That said, I hope you will take this e-mail in the spirit in
which it is
offered, as we share a common goal -- the accountability of Bush and his
administration for their crimes against the American people and
Constitution.
However, THAT said, I am writing to point out the many
egregious
errors of
simple fact and context in your story, "Bush and Cheney Indicted." It is
precisely the kind of unfounded, idiotic and grossly incompetent
"journalism" that causes the truth to often go unreported or even
uninvestigated by the mainstream media.
Your "story," which reads more like a bad parody than the real
thing, is
riddled with terrible mistakes that render it ridiculous. For example,
even
during Watergate -- and ever since -- there has been unresolved debate
over
whether a sitting President can in fact BE indicted while in office.
Such a
precedent would, in fact, cause fierce Constitutional debate, since
impeachment is the only remedy provided by the Founders for removal of
an
incumbent Chief Executive. You and Heneghen seem to have overlooked
that bit
of fact checking.
Second, a British Prime Minister can not be indicted by a U.S.
grand jury.
To say is just shows your lack of understanding of international law and
protocol.
Third, IF Bush and Cheney were indicted, they would not then
appear
"publicly" before the grand jury. They would be arrested and taken to
jail,
pending arraignment and a bond hearing, like any other defendant.
Further, your suggestion that the grand jury had "expanded" its
investigation to include Mena, Arkansas and 9/11, along other things, is
absurd. Apparently you know very little about the function of a grand
jury
and how it is impaneled and its parameters set.
Given the fact that it is a very real possibility there WILL
be
indictments
in the White House and possibly elsewhere over the Plame affair and
related
crimes, such as obstruction, it is pathetic, in my humble opinion, that
you
would so mangle the story as to render it ludicrous. I have often heard
criticisms of you as "over the top," but in this instance you have done
more
damage to the credibility of the "independent" press than you can
imagine.
I trust that once you have realized your errors, you will
apologize.
I am considering doing a major story, and don't wish to
embarrass you. On
the other hand, I think it important that your gross irresponsibility be
publicly acknowledged, IF you fail to do yourself.
I look forward to your response.
Thanks.
John Buchanan, journalist & documentary filmmaker
Author, "Fixing America: Breaking the Stranglehold of Corporate Rule,
Big
Media and the Religious Right"
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BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED !!! + Many of the Crime Family
tomflocco.com
Address:http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=3143&sid=858006e33ca7ff30486f1256862a07e0
Hot Off The Presses !
BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED!
A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of
the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush
administration
Chicago -- August 2, 2005 --
TomFlocco.com --
U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's Chicago grand jury has
issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following
members of the Bush Administration:
President George W. Bush,
Vice-President Richard Cheney,
Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card,
Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby,
Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez,
former Attorney General John Ashcroft,
imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior
Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.
There were no indications given as to whether the President and his top
staff members would appear publicly before cameras at the grand jury
proceedings, given the gravity of the charges.
Besides the Valerie Plame CIA leak case, the Fitzgerald probe is
reportedly far-reaching and expanding much deeper into past White House
criminal acts involving Bush-Clinton drug money laundering in Mena,
Arkansas to White House involvement in 9.11; but also war in Iraq and
Afghanistan under false pretenses.
British Prime Minister Tony Blair was indicted for obstruction of
justice and is reportedly consulting with members of Parliament and
legal aides regarding how to avoid appearing in the U.S.A. for
interrogation before Fitzgerald in Chicago.
The revelations emanated from sources close to the grand jury who spoke
with federal whistleblower Thomas Heneghen in California who said White
House Senior Advisor to the President Karl Rove was also indicted for
perjury and was reportedly involved with Mary Matalin in a major Bush
administration document shredding operation to cover-up evidence.
Heneghen had reported over ten days ago on a TruthRadio.com broadcast
that his sources close to the grand jury said former Secretary of State
Colin Powell had been subpoenaed and had testified against President
Bush, telling the citizen panel that the President had taken the United
States to war based upon lies--a capital crime involving treason under
the United States Code.
Heneghen also reported a week ago that Gonzalez and Card had been
subpoened and that Tony Blair had defied his subpoena after the response
time limit had expired.
Sources close to the investigation report that members of the House,
Senate, 9.11 Commission and other members of the media are also under
investigation as potential targets by a grand jury regarding obstruction
of justice and other oversight failures linked to the 9.11
attacks--indicating that citizen panelists working with Fitzgerald may
be seeking a wholesale cleansing of what many have said is a
crime-wracked White House and Congress.
Also last Monday, the whistleblower reported that Senate Intelligence
Committee Chairman Pat Roberts was planning to obstruct justice by
calling Fitzgerald for Senate hearings to question the prosecutor's
motives for the far-reaching investigation.
This, giving rise to questions as to whether Roberts and other
Republican legislators--some now under secret investigation--would join
President Bush in seeking to fire Fitzgerald in the same manner that
President Nixon had fired Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox in
order to obstruct justice and cut off further investigations into White
House crimes.
Two weeks ago Heneghen said he had talked to sources just ten minutes
prior to French and U.S. intelligence agents intercepting British
intelligence agents who were attempting to bomb the subway underneath
the Dirksen Federal Building where Fitzgerald was presiding over grand
jury hearings.
Serious questions can also be raised as to whether intelligence forces
linked to President Bush and Tony Blair had participated in a failed
attempt to scuttle the Fitzgerald probe by literally blowing it up--at a
time when UK reports reveal that military-grade explosives were used to
blow up the London subway on July 7.
Sources say the alleged Chicago subway bombing attempt has been
attributed to an underground and closeted enmity involving warring
intelligence and military factions within the United States government.
Moreover, reports indicate that the disturbance occurred at the same
time that the Chicago Tribune and local web blogs had reported that the
subway had been evacuated for 45-50 minutes regarding a "suspicious
package" late on Monday afternoon, July 18.
Also confirming the under-the-radar-screen hostilities involving agents
loyal to the administration and others who are disturbed about the
cover-up of government involvement in the 9.11 attacks was a recent
contact made with this writer by a major New York media outlet which
called seeking "names of those who could confirm its own reports of
warring factions within the government which were threatening the safety
of U.S. citizens."
developing.....please link or copy--and distribute widely.
_________________
TomFlocco
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