this discussion reminds me of the movie the Godfather.
 Ambitious bad guy Virgil Sollozzo tells
somewhat-out-of-his-league Tom Hagen, "what are you
worried about.  If I wanted to kill you you'd be dead
already."  

if the Mafia dons in Washington really wanted Chavez
dead they would have knocked him off by now.




--- norgesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> CIA and FBI Plan to Assassinate Hugo Chávez
> 
> by Kurt Nimmo
> November 20, 2005
> Alternative Press Review 
> 
> 
> This empire, unlike any other in the history of the
> world, has been built primarily through economic
> manipulation.  "How do we know that the CIA was
> behind the coup that overthrew Hugo Chávez?" asked
> historian William Blum in 2002. "Same way we know
> that the sun will rise tomorrow morning. That's what
> it's always done and there's no reason to think that
> tomorrow morning will be any different."
> 
> Now we have a bit more evidence the CIA and the FBI
> connived with reactionary elements to not only
> briefly overthrow Chávez, abolish the constitution
> and the National Assembly, but later assassinate the
> Venezuelan State Prosecutor, Danilo Anderson. He was
> killed by a car bomb in Caracas on November 18,
> 2004, while investigating those who were behind the
> coup. Giovani Jose Vasquez De Armas, a member of
> Colombia's right wing paramilitary group called the
> United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, claims he
> was in charge of logistics for the plot to kill
> Danilo Anderson. Vasquez De Armas told the Attorney
> General's office that those planning the killing,
> "all discussed the plan with the help of the FBI and
> CIA."
> 
> And the sun will rise tomorrow.
> 
> 
> "According to the Attorney General, Vasquez De Armas
> said that during a meeting in Darien, Panama, on
> September 4 and 6, 2003, an FBI Officer called
> 'Pesquera' and a CIA agent called 'Morrinson,'
> attended a meeting along with two of the plot's
> alleged organizers, Patricia Poleo and Salvador
> Romani, as well as two of those who actually did the
> killing, Rolando and Otoniel Guevera," writes
> Alessandro Parma. "An official from the Attorney
> General's office, speaking on behalf of Vasquez De
> Armas, said that in Panama the FBI and the plotting
> Venezuelans agreed, 'to take out Chavez and the
> Government.' He said, 'the meeting's final objective
> was to kill President Chavez and the Attorney
> General.'"
> 
> None of this is new or particularly revelatory. 
> Steve Kangas writes:
>   "CIA operations follow the same recurring script.
> First, American business interests abroad are
> threatened by a popular or democratically elected
> leader. The people support their leader because he
> intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions,
> redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned
> industry, and regulate business to protect workers,
> consumers and the environment. So, on behalf of
> American business, and often with their help, the
> CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies
> right-wing groups within the country (usually the
> military), and offers them a deal: "We'll put you in
> power if you maintain a favorable business climate
> for us." The Agency then hires, trains and works
> with them to overthrow the existing government
> (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the
> book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased
> elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue,
> false stories about opponents in the local media,
> infiltration and disruption of opposing political
> parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation,
> economic sabotage, death squads and even
> assassination. These efforts culminate in a military
> coup, which installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA
> trains the dictator's security apparatus to crack
> down on the traditional enemies of big business,
> using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims
> are said to be "communists," but almost always they
> are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union
> leaders, political opponents and advocates of free
> speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses
> follow."
> Examples include the coup to overthrow the
> democratically elected leader Mohammed Mossadegh in
> Iran, the ouster of democratically elected Jacob
> Arbenz in Guatemala, one coup per year (between
> 1957-1973) in Laos, the installation of the
> murderous "Papa Doc" Duvalier in Haiti, the
> assassination of Rafael Trujillo in the Dominican
> Republic, the overthrow of Jose Velasco in Ecuador,
> the assassination of the democratically elected
> Patrice Lumumba in the Congo (later Zaire), the
> overthrow of the democratically elected Juan Bosch
> in the Dominican Republic, the overthrow of the
> democratically elected government of Joao Goulart in
> Brazil, the overthrow of the democratically elected
> Sukarno government in Indonesia, a military coup in
> Greece designed to install the "reign of the
> colonels" (when the Greek ambassador complained
> about CIA plans for Cypress, Johnson told him: "F-
> your parliament and your constitution"), the
> overthrow of the popular Prince Sahounek in
> Cambodia, the overthrow of Juan Torres in Bolivia,
> the overthrow and assassination of Salvador Allende
> in Chile, the assassination of archbishop Oscar
> Romero in El Salvador, and dozens of other incidents
> rarely if ever taught in American school history
> lessons.
> 
> As John Perkins (author of Confessions of an
> Economic Hit Man), as a former respected member of
> the international banking community and National
> Security Agency economist, told Amy Goodman:
> "Basically what we were trained to do and what our
> job is to do is to build up the American empire. To
> bring-to create situations where as many resources
> as possible flow into this country, to our
> corporations, and our government.. This empire,
> unlike any other in the history of the world, has
> been built primarily through economic manipulation,
> through cheating, through fraud, through seducing
> people into our way of life, through the economic
> hit men." Perkins' job was "deal-making":
>   It was giving loans to other countries, huge
> loans, much bigger than they could possibly repay.
> One of the conditions of the loan-let's say a $1
> billion to a country like Indonesia or Ecuador-and
> this country would then have to give ninety percent
> of that loan back to a U.S. company, or U.S.
> companies, to build the infrastructure-a Halliburton
> or a Bechtel. These were big ones. Those companies
> would then go in and build an electrical system or
> ports or highways, and these would basically serve
> just a few of the very wealthiest families in those
> countries. The poor people in those countries would
> be stuck ultimately with this amazing debt that they
> couldn't possibly repay. A country today like
> Ecuador owes over fifty percent of its national
> budget just to pay down its debt. And it really
> can't do it. So, we literally have them over a
> barrel. So, when we want more oil, we go to Ecuador
> and say, "Look, you're not able to repay your debts,
> therefore give our oil companies your Amazon rain
> forest, which are filled with oil." And today we're
> going in and destroying Amazonian rain forests,
> forcing Ecuador to give them to us because they've
> accumulated all this debt. So we make this big loan,
> most of it comes back to the United States, the
> country is left with the debt plus lots of interest,
> and they basically become our servants, our slaves.
> It's an empire. There's no two ways about it. It's a
> huge empire. It's been extremely successful.
> Most of the money for these loans, according to
> Perkins, is provided by the World Bank and the
> International Monetary Fund, the two premier neolib
> loan sharking operations (it is important to note
> that the Straussian neocon, Paul Wolfowitz, is now
> president of the World Bank, thus demonstrating how
> closely related the neocons and traditional neolibs
> are).
> 
> 
> If the loan sharks are unable to steal natural
> resources (oil, minerals, rainforests, water) as a
> condition of repaying this immense debt, "the next
> step is what we call the jackals."
>   Jackals are CIA-sanctioned people that come in and
> try to foment a coup or revolution. If that doesn't
> work, they perform assassinations-or try to. In the
> case of Iraq, they weren't able to get through to
> Saddam Hussein. His bodyguards were too good. He had
> doubles. They couldn't get through to him. So the
> third line of defense, if the economic hit men and
> the jackals fail, the next line of defense is our
> young men and women, who are sent in to die and
> kill, which is what we've obviously done in Iraq.
> Hugo Chávez is now between the assassination point
> of this neolib plan and invasion, when "our young
> men and women" will be "sent in to die and kill"
> Venezuelan peasants the same way they are now
> killing poor Iraqis. Of course, it remains to be
> seen if Bush can actually invade Venezuela-the
> neocon roster is teeming with targets, from Syria to
> Iran-and so we can expect the Bushcons and their
> jackals to continue efforts to assassinate Chávez,
> as Giovani Jose Vasquez De Armas reveals the CIA and
> the FBI are attempting to do, with little success.
> One notable failure by the jackals is Fidel Castro
> in Cuba, who experienced numerous assassination
> attempts and CIA counterinsurgency specialist Edward
> Lansdale's Operation Mongoose (consisting of
> sabotage and political warfare), also known as the
> ''Cuba Project.''
> 
> 
> As Blum notes, we know all of this is happening,
> same as we know the sun will come up tomorrow.
> 
> 
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