I've seen your posts here before Michael. A quick search brings up these posts by you:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/35361 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/34894 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/32130 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/32089 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31728 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31689 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31638 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31628 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31344 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31312 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31296 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31280 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31256 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31235 So, to say you have never been allowed to post here is not true. Also, if your post doesn't get through for any reason, there is no yahoo function that sends it back as "moderated out". Do you always send posts to this group with the email address that you are subscribed with? Do you check the group online to see if your posts are there? Maybe your email service is putting your posts into the spam folder. just a coupla suggestions, since I've heard you say a bunch of times here and elsewhere that you never are allowed to post at cia-drugs. Seems not to be true. regards, Norgesen --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Donovan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have belonged to this forum for some time now. I am never able to post. It always comes back moderated out. Don't think I was ever 'off subject'. Will try again. The illicit drugs as control to the point of Colby saying (before he was murdered google "Kay Griggs" is based on it being a checking mechanism for non use of nuke agreements brokered by my father's boss, Henry Luce. That background information I have put, true story, in the form of a play, A Spy In Time. Go to www.midcoast.com/~michael1 Scroll down to A Spy In Time. Michael Donovan Camden, ME ----- Original Message ----- From: RoadsEnd To: Cia-drugs Cia-drugs Cc: RoadsEnd Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:27 PM Subject: [cia-drugs] Fwd: Anatomy of a troll operation - The Skeleton Key Begin forwarded message: From: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: August 3, 2006 4:07:13 PM PDT To: ctrl CTRL <CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Anatomy of a troll operation - The Skeleton Key Anatomy of a troll operation. The Skeleton Key In observing spooks for some time. I find that they generally follow a script and tend to run operations in similar ways, which leave distinctive footsteps. In my three or so earlier "tussles" with McBride, we have always found "Sean McBride, "the Webfairy and "Dick Eastman" involved. I have caught Easttman before in an trolling operation. The yahoo archives are starting to go dark, which helps to embolden these trolls because without the public archives shining a light on their previous actions, the perpetrators lie, imagine that. These same folks were involved in an abortive take-over of CIA- [EMAIL PROTECTED] in May -July 2003, using dissension, two forged emails, the death of Brian Quig and a bunch of yahooers. As part of this series we will also examine that attack and the other snarls. Here is a list of suspected main players (trolls, dogs and useful idiots) in this current troll operation, this information comes from the membership activity file and other databases of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us remember what "Sean" posted on CIA-drugs, on June 29, 2003 in his response about another "troll op." "There is something very important you must understand: the bad guys have been trying to control dissident Internet political forums for years now. They go about this in several ways. "One way is to start and control a new dissident forum, pretending to be dissidents themselves. They use their control of the forum to collect sensitive information on dissidents, and to control the direction of discussion on the forum. Naturally they try to steer discussion away from the areas they most want to hide. "Another method they use is to try to take over existing forums. If they can't manage to take over the forum, they will often flood the forum with junk in an attempt to destroy the forum. "These guys usually operate in teams of 3 or 4, to give each other backup, and to have the means to gang up on the strongest real dissidents." As of now you will notice they are in the "destroy" mode. Slandering me, etc. posting screeds, swearing, shouting, etc. And this current action by zionistexposer is part and parcel. Notice the meme included in the posters handle applying the controlled dialectic. I am not nor have ever been a Zionist , a Zionist supporter or sympathizer. And believe the whole dialectic does a disservice. Look at the flow of folks. "they create dissension and discord, attacking old time posters by name and creating the controlled dialectic. Both sides. The action even included "fights' distancing "Sean" and Eastman and Webfairy, so as not to appear to be in cahoots. The heavy action can't happen until the hostilities begin with it's share of cognitive dissonance and war rhetoric. Webfairy even leaves the forum, does she become yahooer. Who knows? Here they they are the trolls, the dogs and useful idiots. Some commentary at the end of the list. Apr 23, 2005 10:38 am smcbride2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web Mar 2, 2006 2:51 am [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joined group via email Apr 1, 2006 4:48 pm jammin_the_truth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web May 8, 2006 7:22 am zionistexposer6f <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web May 17, 2006 5:17 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joined group via email {Dick Eastman} Jun 11, 2006 2:27 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joined group via web Jun 15, 2006 8:51 am [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joined group via email Jun 16, 2004 5:28 am [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joined group via email Jun 19, 2006 5:49 am jewish_from_brooklyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web Jun 20, 2006 5:46 am jammin_the_truth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Removed by moderator by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web Jun 20, 2006 5:46 am jammin_the_truth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Banned by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web Jun 20, 2006 5:46 am oldickeastman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Removed by moderator by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web {Dick Eastman} Jun 20, 2006 5:46 am oldickeastman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Banned by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web {Dick Eastman} Jul 3, 2006 4:10 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joined group via email Jul 8, 2006 5:43 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joined group via email {Dick Eastman} Israeli-Lebanon conflict begins Jul 14, 2006 11:15 am l_l_hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web Jul 15, 2006 7:49 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member changed email address by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web Jul 16, 2006 8:21 pm the_webfairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Left group via email Jul 17, 2006 10:53 am dholland412 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web Jul 17, 2006 2:34 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Removed by moderator by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web {Dick Eastman} Jul 17, 2006 2:34 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Banned by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web {Dick Eastman} Jul 18, 2006 2:57 am hotalice3313 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web Jul 18, 2006 8:04 am hotalice3313 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Removed by moderator by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web Jul 18, 2006 8:04 am hotalice3313 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Banned by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web Jul 20, 2006 3:42 pm aeund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web Jul 20, 2006 5:19 pm hitech2_47460 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web Jul 21, 2006 10:27 pm thewness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jul 30, 2006 3:13 pm jewish_from_brooklyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Removed by moderator by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web Jul 30, 2006 3:13 pm jewish_from_brooklyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Banned by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web Jul 30, 2006 6:02 pm aeund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Removed by moderator by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web Jul 30, 2006 6:02 pm aeund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Banned by ramillegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web and here are some trolls, attacks and posts of "Sean. " First off, you have "Sean" joining the board about a year before the main action. Apr 23, 2005 10:38 am smcbride2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joined group via web By this time he has already known many of the players, so "Sean" lurks this time, only for about a month before he starts off with an attack. He attacks conscientious empathetic thew, who is obviously an easy target for engagement. This "constant attack led to, thew a major participant for almost five years to finally have to leave. Here is "sincere" "Sean's" first post to ctrl Jun 15, 2005 2:07 pm 59862 Israeli Ops on the Internet in Defense of the Official Story on 9/11 Is there any good reason to believe that thew isn't one of hundreds of Israeli ops and propaganda artists on the net? Has everyone by now noticed that there is a strong correlation between emotional apologetics for the official story on 9/11 and emotional ... Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, "Sean" has entered the stage, I am busy getting ready for trial and busy in productionland and if Sean is here, something must be up. Whi is he here? So, I let him talk, he is cautious a bit a first but soon becomes a fairly regular and heavy poster. He is now up to 1319 posts or more than three a day since he first started posting on 6/15/2005. Here is a sampling of the attack troll post that create the dissension that is desired. Notice the attack is right out of the gate and directed. Also he keeps his meme forefront. We dealing with meme warfare. Jul 12, 2005 5:36 pm 61472 Re: [ctrl] Bombers 'almost certainly' British More tawdry apologetics from Israeli op thew. Giuliani is a militant Zionist and key member of the Israel-centric neoconservative political network. Giuliani gives the impression that he is much more devoted to Israel than to Christianity. Data mine his ... Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] 61847 Israeli Ops on the Internet (Spinning the London bombings) Why are you trying to downplay or rule out the possibility of a false flag operation in this case ? False flag operations are one of the first angles to carefully consider in any terrorist incident. If you are unfamiliar with the subject, start by ... Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64570 Israeli Ops on the Internet Don't forget for a second that thew is one of hundreds of Israeli ops on the Internet whose sole purpose is to disrupt and obstruct honest investigations into 9/11 and related topics that apparently make emotional Israeli supporters like thew very ... Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64799 How to Spot an Ethnic Cultist -they can't stop complaining about affronts and injuries to their ethnic group -they can't stop talking about their ethnic enemies - they can't stop talking about their ethnic issues and problems -they see ethnic enemies everywhere -they make ethnic ... Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64815 Israeli Ops and Ethnic Cultists on the Net Check out thew's infantile and disruptive debating tactics, and you'll get an excellent insight into how agents and propagandists for Israel operate on the net. They have one standard trick: turn any criticism of Israel, no matter how legitimate and well ... Sep 9, 2005 5:38 pm 65124 The Lust for Apocalyptic Destruction (the "Politics" of the Neoconservative/Christian Zionist Alliance) There is a certain of class of individuals whose politics are driven not by any pragmatic or sane political objective, but by a lust and mania for apocalyptic destruction. The prospect of apocalyptic destruction, especially of willfully *triggering ... 65149 Thew and the Ethnocentrism Index The Ethnocentrism Index: the percentage of one's posts which are preoccupied with offering apologetics for one's questionable ethnic policies. The Foreign Nationalism Index: the percentage of one's posts which are preoccupied with offering apologetics for ... 65181 How to Spot an Ethnic Obsessive Ethnic obsessives are bogged down in endless ugly squabbles about their ethnic issues with ethnic outsiders. Ethnic obsessives are much more upset by criticism of their ethnic homeland than they are by criticism of the nations in which they are nominal ... 65240 Thew Pegs the Ethnocentrism Meter Thew is the only person posting in this forum who is focused on promoting his narrow ethnic interests and the interests of a foreign government. He fits the profile of a potential American traitor. Everyone else here is focused on promoting the American ... 65323 On the Enemies of Free Speech and the Totalitarian Personality Type What kind of person is obsessed with controlling the free speech of others? Generally, the enemies of free speech appear to fall into four main categories: 1. militant ethnocentrists 2. militant nationalists 3. militant religionists 4. militant secular ... 65361 The 9/11 Report: The Worst Cover-up In History [Thew is trying to make excuses for the official story on 9/11, to minimize the outrageous absurdity of it, because he is afraid that some of the trails in the 9/11 conspiracy will lead back to Israel. A large percentage of the people who are working ... 65381 Re: [ctrl] The Demolition of WTC 7 My only response to this is: Jesus fucking Christ. You've got to be shitting me. Why are you on this list? thew <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. In this case the only source I have is my memory of the day. I will look further into it. On 9/17/05 12:33 PM, "Sean ... 65541 Re: [ctrl] The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie Thew is an Israeli op. He has no skills or discipline for doing research of any kind, not to mention conspiracy research. He is driven entirely by his ethnic hormones. His only purpose in this list is to kick up dust on behalf of Israel and his ethnic ... 65590 Israeli Ops on the Net Thew, Until you can get on a topic of interest, with useful facts and analysis, and stop whining about the fact that your favorite country in the whole wide world has been criticized, this discussion is over. So far you've been a waste of time. The one ... 65970 Re: [ctrl] Arianna Huffington on Thomas Friedman One Israeli op (Thew) comes to the defense of an another Israeli op (Thomas Friedman). It's all about obsessive ethnocentrism. I used to have a great deal of respect for both Thomas Friedman and Christopher Hitchens. The Iraq War has destroyed the ... 66005 Israeli Ops on the Net Thew, Understand this well: I don't bother responding to most of your posts because they are infantile, illogical, dishonest and a waste of time. Your only intention in this group is to disrupt it with nonsense, not to make substantive contributions to ... 66080 Re: [ctrl] Israeli Ops on the Net Would you like to address this point with Norman Finkelstein? Have you written a paper on the subject? I've read a few dozens books on the history of Zionism carefully, and correlated all the details with everthing else I know about world history. The ... 66294 Re: [ctrl] What Does This Have to Do With Conspiracy Research? You didn't answer the question: why do inappropriately post canned and stale mainstream crap in a list that is dedicated to fresh and original conspiracy research? Are you autistic in some way? Don't you get what the list is about? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... 66278 Re: [ctrl] Israeli Ops on the Net (Re: Cheryl Halpern) "Israeli op" is a term I use with great precision, and I have defined it here before. An Israeli op is any person, organization, group or activity which is substantially controlled by calculations of the Israeli interest or by strong emotional feelings ... 66299 Israeli Ops on the Net This kind of post is very typical of an Israeli op, by the way. Israeli ops are designed to obfuscate, divert, and obstruct -- never to engage in substantive discussion. Israeli ops are scared to death of free, open and well-informed discussion and debate ... Oct 1, 2005 1:27 pm 66370 Re: [ctrl] Were the DC protesters victims of bio-terrorism? Make no mistake: this guy is an Israeli op. In a previous message, he described this forum as a collection of "anti-semitic rantings." His only purpose in being here is to disrupt this forum with canned and stale spam, and to disrupt every other forum he ... 66387 Israeli Ops on the Net How many groups have you been banned from so far? Why do you continue to try to disrupt groups with boring canned spam which has no relevance to the main focus of those groups? Why do you especially choose to disrupt groups whose opinions on Israel upset ... 66431 Israeli Ops on the Net Check out KeyzerSzoze's use of the first person "we" in conversation with Thew. KS should ponder the fate of Irv Rubin. The belief that Jerusalem, not Washington, will be the capital of a global theocratic regime is a core concept in the writings of many ... On Jerusalem as the Capital of the World The world domination meme in Judeo-Christian fascism. Many Jewish and Christian fundamentalists and Zionists believe that their respective messiahs will rule the world from Jerusalem: http://www.middleeastinprophecy.org/ The Middle East in Prophecy The ... 66487 On the Criminal Operations of the Israel Lobby in the Bush Administration [Note: this criminal network would also have to be considered the prime suspect in any 9/11 inside job scenario.] [Some keywords: AIPAC, Douglas Feith, Israeli espionage, John Hannah, Judith Miller, Keith Weissman, Lewis Libby, OSP, Paul Wolfowitz, Steve ... Oct 3, 2005 10:32 am 66520 Spamming CTRL This post of yours has nothing to do with conspiracy theory or conspiracy research. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Health Care Don Boudreaux Michael Tanner explains that, for all of its many faults, health-care in the United States is superior to health-care ... 66840 An Exceptionally Pathetic Israeli Op This guy is not just an Israeli op, but an exceptionally pathetic Israeli op. What's pathetic? The perpetual whine, the weepy hurt feelings, the weird being in denial about his emotional agenda, and the obnoxious presumption that he has a right to tell ... 66846 Re: [ctrl] On Doing Serious Political Research (And the Problem of Ethnic Cultism) Let me be frank: you fall so far below the intellectual level of the people I normally invest time in that it is laughable. I have no idea how you found your way into this group. You don't understand the culture. You have contributed nothing of value. All ... 66945 Re: [ctrl] Thew's Disloyalty to the United States I am neither Zionist nor Israel firster, as I have stated many times. You're a liar, and an exceptionally ridiculous one. Your only purpose in this group is to whine about criticism of Israel, and to try to disrupt open and rational discussion about ... 66960 Re: [ctrl] Thew's Disloyalty to the United States Hi, Thew has pretty done nothing else other than whine about criticism of Israel in this list, without providing anything in the way of carefully researched and well-informed rebuttal. I wouldn't deny him his right to do this, but I can't help but express ... 66978 9/11, WTC 7 and the Preponderance of Circumstantial Evidence Thew, I don't bother getting into detailed technical analyses of subjects in which I lack technical knowledge: for instance, the technology of the construction of skyscrapers and the collapse of skyscrapers. Not only do I not have a doctorate in this ... 66985 Re: [ctrl] 9/11, WTC 7 and the Preponderance of Circumstantial Evidence You look and sound like an Israeli op because you can't stop whining about criticism of Israel. Your behavior is especially strange in a culture which as a rule doesn't hestitate to make hamburgers of sacred cows, especially ethnic, religious and ... 68001 On Ethnocentrism, Irrationality and Violence On Ethnocentrism, Irrationality and Violence Ethnocentrism closely correlates with verbal and physical violence, and with low mental functioning. Ethnocentrism is a phenomenon of the primitive reptile brain. The greater the ethnocentrism, the weaker the ... 68055 Re: [ctrl] Re: Israeli Ops on the Net I don't waste time getting into discussions with people who are unable to sort out and prioritize the main strategic issues in controversies, who lack intellectual honesty, and who bring nothing original or interesting to the table. Thew's only interest ... 68060 Re: [ctrl] Re: Israeli Ops on the Net Thew, I am used to interacting with people with high levels of literacy and who don't repeatedly make the errors in basic inferencing which litter and disfigure your posts. I just don't have time to teach you how to read texts, and to respond to all your ... 69127 Re: [ctrl] Déjà vu, Hidden Documents and the Physics of 911 You're arguing against a straw man -- you're not even close to correctly identifying my views on this particular issue, and you're wasting my time. Yes, your first sentence is totally wrong. Consult the archives for what I really think -- I am not going ... 70038 Christian Zionism: Terror in Jesus' Name Christian Zionism is a call for global war. The belief that Christianity is the sole truth, that all other faiths are 'Satanic' or 'false', that the Jews must all gather in Palestine to fulfill so- called Biblical prophecies, and that a grand global war ... 70039 Re: On Anti-Semitism and the Critique of Neoconservatism Jews comprise an ethnic group, as well as a religion. In fact, Jews these days may be more an ethnic group, an ethnic culture, than a religion. Most of the founders of Zionism were secularists and atheists. You are not demanding that the Irish, or the .. 70198 Would-Be Net Censors, Militant Pro-Israelists and the 9/11 Cover-Up Dan, You've acquired a few credibility problems on the net with regard to the discussion about 9/11: 1. You have deceptively made hate posts on the net, viciously attacking Jews and blacks, under the pseudonym "Benny Waters" and possibly other names, and ... Jan 25, 2006 6:25 pm 72144 Notice to Webfairy and the No-Planers You're very close to losing any access to this forum. In fact, I am increasingly convinced that you are a classical COINTELPRO op. It's either that, or the no-planes cult has attracted the worst and most self-destructive psychotics in the conspiracy ... Feb 4, 2006 10:34 pm 72642 Re: Thew: Every News Outlet Reported that WTC7 Was Pulled A shifty, intellectually dishonest response, and blatantly so. You deny that you said "every news outlet" even when confronted with the link which points to your direct quote in which you said "every news outlet." And the truth is, of course, that NO news ... 72600 Thew on the Pulling of WTC7 (Link) Let's nail this down right and proper: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl/message/65371 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl/message/65371> "It didn't collapse, but it was damaged by tons of debris, Rather than risk it they pulled it. Not secretly. It was ... Feb 4, 2006 10:42 pm 72599 Thew: Every News Outlet Reported that WTC7 Was Pulled Thew: Every News Outlet Reported that WTC7 Was Pulled This is a direct quote from Thew, in September 2005, about WTC7: "It didn't collapse, but it was damaged by tons of debris, Rather than risk it they pulled it. Not secretly. It was reported as pulled ... 74553 Re: [ctrl] Moslem States Represent a Potential Threat to World Peace What is your religious upbringing and ethnic background? The question has already been asked once, and apparently you missed it. You seem to be violently excited about ethnic and religious matters. What is your agenda, exactly? Most of the ringleaders of ... Mar 21, 2006 9:59 am 74594 Re: [ctrl] Churchill, Jews, Communism, Trotsky, Lenin, etc. Trying to understand the subject of Jewish messianic movements requires the utmost nuance and depth of knowledge. I don't think I've figured it out yet. There is a great deal of inaccurate, self- serving and misleading propaganda on all sides of this ... 74849 Thew, the Israel Lobby and the 9/11 Cover-Up You've got to understand that Thew has absolutely no interest in investigating 9/11 in an honest way. In fact, he is a part of efforts by the Israel lobby to obstruct all investigations into 9/11. Thew is terrified that the truth about 9/11 could be bad ... 75770 Re: [ctrl] Re: The Old Testament God as Mass Murderer This is the kind of disgusting anti-Semitism which makes it easy to understand why many Jews believe that they require radical solutions to deal with their enemies. Any attempts by anti-Semites to destroy Israel will lead to terrible consequences for the ... 75871 The Israel Lobby Is the Prime Mover Behind the $2 Trillion Disaster in Iraq Thew, You have an unfortunate tendency to babble like a brook. Try to focus for once on the main points, and back up your vague claims with solid empirical data. We are still in the midst of a deteriorating disaster in Iraq which was engineered primarily ... Apr 19, 2006 11:37 pm 76140 Re: [ctrl] Israel Dick Cheney Iran War (Eric Margolis) Why am I wasting any time with you? Again, no cites, no URLs, no documents, no facts -- just your usual uninformed opinions. You don't have the temperament of a researcher, investigator or scholar, and why you choose to visit this group at all is a ... 76323 Razl Dazl's Political Agenda Razl seems to lose all the posts in which he is asked about his political agenda. 1. Ethnic and religious background? 2. Why has razl shown not the slightest interest in Australian political issues? 3. Has razl ever visited the United States? So far he ... Apr 23, 2006 10:30 am 76326 Re: [ctrl] Razl Dazl's Political Agenda When zealots like razl dazl are spewing obscene hatred at an endless list of ethnic, religious and national enemies, I think they owe us the courtesy of letting us know where they are comng from. What is razl dazl's ideological background and agenda? Most ... 76331 Re: [ctrl] Razl Dazl's Political Agenda The issue is not his ethnic and group affiliation by birth and upbringing -- the issue is his self-chosen political ideology. Razl dazl seems to have organized his entire mental and political life around the fanatical hatred of his ethnic enemies. His ... Apr 23, 2006 4:34 pm 76346 Have the Neocons Already Destroyed the United States? Have the Neocons Already Destroyed the United States? It's possible that Bush and the neocons have not merely damaged the United States severely, but destroyed it irrevocably. During the last few years, through a great deal of violent rhetoric and violent ... 76521 Re: [ctrl] The Israel Lobby The vast majority of your posts are obsessively focused on attacking your ethnic enemies and defending your ethnic interests, usually with the utmost ineptness and incompetence. You and razl dazl are the only ones in this group who are bogged down in the ... 78272 Jewish Attacks on Christian and Muslims Razl Dazl has attacked several billion Christians and Muslims in this group with some of the most vicious, vile and obscene language I have ever seen in any forum. Because Razl is such an emotional defender of Israel, Zionism, Judaism and Jews, most of ... 78266 Re: [ctrl] Ian McKellen: Bible Should Have 'Fiction' Label Your post, as usual, doesn't address the content of my post. Razl, your ethnic brother in arms in the war against the evil enemies of Israel, has pretended to be a secular universalist who despises religion, Christians, Muslims and the Bible. But he is a ... 78301 Re: [ctrl] Israeli-Motivated Attacks on Americans You continue to babble like a brook -- there is not a single concrete fact in your paragraph. In fact, I can't recall seeing any concrete facts and particulars in your posts to me. You annoy us with vague and trite opinions that are completely valueless ... Jun 9, 2006 3:41 pm 78361 Re: [ctrl] Bilderbergers meet secretly today in Ottawa See, this is why you are way over your head in the field of conspiracy research and deep politics. The Bilderberg Group goes to great lengths to try to keep the existence of these meetings out of the mainstream media, and they are certainly determined to ... Jun 10, 2006 12:17 pm 78415 Re: [ctrl] Re: thew: Bilderbergers meet secretly today in Ottawa You know, I didn't even bother to reply to this post from thew because he has finally convinced me that his only intention here, like Razl Dazl, is to try to disrupt this group with trivia and nonsense on behalf of a well-known lobby which is famous for ... un 10, 2006 6:19 am 78396 Razl Dazl's Israeli-Motivated Hate Campaign Against Christianity and Islam Razl Dazl has mounted the most vicious and obscene -- literally obscene -- attacks on Christianity and Islam that have ever appeared on the Internet, all in the name of Israel, Zionism and Judaism. (He is struggling to control his coprolalia, but it keeps ... Jun 14, 2006 10:04 pm 78734 Understanding Judaism - A Further Note RD: Regarding Dick Eastman: even though I think he has fallen into the mental trap of anti-Semitism, which is a grave intellectual error and moral violation, I do think he is basically a sincere truth-seeker, and good-hearted when all is said and done ... 78884 Some Thoughts on Anti-Semitism Dick, I don't want to pick on you or gang up on you, but my honest impression is that you hold anti-Semitic beliefs and often post hardcore anti-Semitic materials. You need to notice two things: 1. Nearly all ethnic and religious groups I can think of ... 78957 On Infantilism in Conspiracy Theorizing On Infantilism in Conspiracy Theorizing Many conspiracy theorists are childlike, infantile really, with poor intellectual discipline and an innate attraction to anything that looks really sensational, colorful or exciting. Sort of like parrots becoming ... Jun 19, 2006 6:19 pm 79090 Re: [ctrl] Fw: Israeli Ops in Internet Forums You are a moron in every dimension. How big a birdbrain do you have to be not to be able to figure out how to delete your own messages from Yahoo groups? How big a dunce do you have to be not to be able to figure out that it is not smart to post my ... Sean McBride Jun 19, 2006 6:05 pm 79088 Re: [ctrl] Fw: Israeli Ops in Internet Forums You just broke another cardinal rule of net etiquette by posting a private message in a public forum without permission. I've really had it with you. This is the entire message, which you selectively edited: <quote> Eastman, You're a fucking idiot. If I ... 79070 Re: [ctrl] Fw: Israeli Ops in Internet Forums Eastman, I would greatly appreciate it if you would stop forwarding any of my posts to any forums. If you continue to do so, I will be forced to make it very clear, in a repetitive kind of way, that I strongly object to the rank anti-Semitism and outright ... 79179 The Politics of Apocalypse: The History and Influence of Christian Zionism: Books: Dan Cohn-Sherbok <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1851684530/> In this illuminating book, professor and rabbi Dan Cohn-Sherbok traces the transition of Christian Zionism from Puritan times to the present, examining the ever increasing role of Armageddon in its belief ... 79181 On Mossad's Use of Anti-Semites On Mossad's Use of Anti-Semites From the standpoint of Mossad, Likud, Greater Israelists and the like, anti-Semites -- real anti- Semites -- are an enormously valuable tool, a resource to be kept alive and kicking, fully exploited. The trick is to attach ... 79375 Re: [ctrl] Gerard Holmgren Appears to Be Israeli COINTELPRO Op And wherein lies the irony? I have always been a strong critic of the no-planers -- I was simply willing to them a chance to develop their theory, to see where it went. I don't care much about what methods were used to bring down the towers -- what 79388 Re: [apfn-1] Re: [ctrl] Gerard Holmgren Appears To Be an Israeli COINTELPRO Op One hears in your posts a naked shriek of envy and a cry for help. Would it salve your pain if someone invited you to join the CFR? Would that help? Perhaps an honorary doctorate for the work you haven't done? The Webfairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no ... 79424 COINTELPRO Ops in the 9/11 Research Community It is my honest impression that if Rosalee Grable isn't a COINTELPRO- style op herself, she has fallen under the control of such an op. She should start asking herself why Gerard Holmgren has consistently tried to turn any disagreements with Israel or the ... 79518 COINTELPRO-Style Ops in the 9/11 Research Community COINTELPRO-Style Ops in the 9/11 Research Community How to spot them: 1. They expend much more time and energy in attacking the most effective communicators in the 9/11 research community than in going after the members of the Bush administration who were ... 79437 Re: [GMLH] Re: The "No Plane" Theory [catapult] I've probably known Webfairy longer than you have, and I have protected her ability to express her views when others were ganging up on her and trying to destroy her. I've always been in favor in pursuing all information, evidence, leads and theories ... Jun 29, 2006 6:21 pm 79703 Re: [ctrl] The Most Catastrophic False Messianic Movement in Jewish History? Thew, Your posts never fail to disappoint, for their lack of intellectual force and originality. Nowhere in my post did I condemn Israel's actions or describe them as evil. You need to analzye the mental glitch in your head which projected those thoughts ... Jun 30, 2006 9:41 am 79733 Re: [ctrl] Re: [political-research] Re: The Geralee Holmfairy Blob Thingie You come across to me as a delusional psychotic and a fanatic. Mentally disturbed fanatics are unable to tolerate any interpretation of the world which contradicts their pet theory. They are completely destructive human beings, and not worth getting into ... 79979 The Holmfairy Looks Like COINTELPRO The Holmfairy Looks Like COINTELPRO I notice that Gerard Holmgren and the Webfairy launched new vicious attacks on David Ray Griffin today -- it seems that the more effective the 9/11 truth movement becomes, thanks to the courageous work of respectable ... 79986 Re: [apfn-1] The Holmfairy Looks Like COINTELPRO More COINTELPRO from the Holmfairy: I have never made the claims below -- these are false statements. The Webfairy has been reduced now to simply lying. I do not have a personal relationship with Brzezinski, nor have I written any papers for the CFR. I ... 80020 More Holmfairy COINTELPRO More COINTELPRO crapola from the Holmfairy. Holmgren's posts fall so far below any meaningful standard for intelligent discourse that their only intent can be to annoy, harass, factionalize and divide the authentic community of 9/11 researchers and truth ... 80106 Peak Oil Has Arrived / Crisis Imminent <http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_allen_l__060707_peak_oil_has _arrived.htm> "Peak oil is the point at which production starts to decline and once it becomes clear that this is not just a temporary problem of supply and demand ~ it's going to lead to ... 80275 Re: Foreigner Holmgren vs Rogisnsky, Debate Anyone who gets drawn into any kind of "discussion" at all with Gerard Holmgren and his associates is being crudely manipulated by COINTELPRO. Don't be played for a fool by an agent provocateur from Rupert Murdochland. The cause for truth in 9/11 is being ... 80458 The Holmfairy COINTELPRO Op More COINTELPRO gobbledegook from the Holmfairy -- I urge everyone to ignore this op, not to engage with it and not to debate it. Shun it. COINTELPRO ops are designed to destroy movements from within and to distract and bog down the best minds in those ... 80470 Re: [ctrl] The Holmfairy COINTELPRO Op Your posts, Eastman, come straight from the Nazi/Adolf Hitler playbook. You've never shown the slightest respect for any Jew or for any aspect of Jewish culture. You've failed to take notice that 70% of American Jews have opposed the Iraq War. You've ... Jul 14, 2006 3:17 pm 80554 Re: [ctrl] Rice urges Israel to exercise restraint It's quite possible that Israel will attempt to assassinate Rice or destroy her with an engineered scandal. Assassination is the usual means that Israel employs to deal with political problems. There are extremists in the Israeli government who view ... Jul 14, 2006 3:17 pm 80553 Re: [ctrl] Razl Dazl: Zionism is a Racist and Genocidal Enterprise It comes as no surprise that you and Razl Dazl are brothers in arms, and that your liberal facade is about as phony as $3 dollar bill. You are first and foremost a militant Zionist, not an American liberal. Because America has genocidal roots does not ... 80539 Re: Fw: [ctrl] The Holmfairy COINTELPRO Op Actually, Eastman, I tagged you as an anti-Semite from the first few posts by you I read. You used the word "Jews" in a way that made it clear that you would like to herd all of them back to the gas chambers. You displayed no respect or concern for any ... 80770 Re: [ctrl] Armageddon: The Ultimate Israeli Op As usual, you express total ignorance about every subject you dare to discuss. I've read at least a dozen of the best scholarly works about the image and concept of the Messiah in the Old Testament. I suggest you read at least *ONE* work on the subject ... 80810 Re: [ctrl] Armageddon: Armageddon in the Hebrew Scriptures? I feel like I am in a "debate" with a small child. Holland -- have you managed to earn an advanced degree from any reputable university? You write and "think" like a high school student, not a serious scholar, and like a high school student who is driven ... Jul 17, 2006 2:30 pm 80785 Re: [ctrl] Armageddon: Armageddon in the Hebrew Scriptures? Doug Holland, I have probably forgotten much more about the scholarly discussion of Judaism, and monotheism in general in all its forms, than you have ever read. I have read enough of your posts to know for a certainty that your reading and scholarly ... 80923 Re: [ctrl] On Leo Strauss Good -- we know now that libertarianhope and razl dazl are one and the same person, and that this person posts demented and obscene tirades under numerous handles. Perhaps this is why he falsely assumes that everyone he converses with on the Internet is a ... 80992 Re: [ctrl] Israel's Manipulation of American Christian Armageddonists Are these quotes accurate? Apparently both you and thew believe that they are, since neither of you have questioned them: "We must expel Arabs and take their places." -- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press ... Jul 21, 2006 6:27 pm 81288 Re: [ctrl] Re: The Main Problem with Leo Strauss I can't recall a single post by thew which rose above the level of a neoliberal platitude from the New York Times op-ed page, or which contributed an atom to the advance of conspiracy research. The great majority of his posts consist of complaints about .. Jul 21, 2006 7:27 pm 81297 On Jewishness In terms of his idealism and dogged pursuit of truth, I would have to say that jewish_from_brooklyn is the most Jewish person I have seen in this group -- certainly much more Jewish than thew. These are the kinds of attitudes which produced the great Old ... Jul 22, 2006 6:55 pm 81361 Re: [political-research] Atrocities in Gaza, Lebanon Motivated By Talmudic Mentality I've been tracking the debate on this volatile topic for years, and I can assure you that the virulent racism in certain streams of the Jewish and Zionist traditions is very real and very dangerous, and a present threat. After witnessing Israel's brutal ... 81500 The Israel Lobby and Christian Armageddonists Doug, As usual, you are failing to engage in real debate and discussion, because I am challenging your beliefs and assumptions with real world information that you can't handle. The most powerful component of the Jewish and Israel lobby in the United ul 24, 2006 11:21 am 81511 Re: [ctrl] A Challenge to Doug Holland on 9/11 Another compelling voice from the Israel lobby, to add to that of razl dazl, antilibertarianhope and Doug Holland. No facts, no insights, no nothing. Just sheer obnoxious stupidity. Israel Frankenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cuz you have given no ... 81598 On Obsessive Ethnocentrism Doug, You are in a state of non-stop excitement and agitation about your ethnic enemies and problems. Most Americans dropped the ethnic schtick a long time ago and are quite simply Americans -- you know, they *assimilated*. It's the American thing to do ... --to be to continued-- Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
