Here's the actual link: http://www.counterpunch.com/schuh08152006.html
And here's the actual point: Who infiltrated whom, and on what territory did the initial capture of the IDF soldiers occur? Differing press accounts stating that the capture occurred in Lebanon- not Israel- are now widely known: most frequently cited are AFP, Hindustan Times, Deutsch Press Agency, Asia Times, Bahrain News Agency and Voltairenet. Others reflect changes of direction in the recording of basic facts. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: "Alamaine, IVe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: August 15, 2006 8:53:34 AM PDT > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [ctrl] Operation "Change of Location"? > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.counterpunch.com/ > > August 15, 2006 > > Operation "Change of Location"? > > How Reports of the July 12th Capture of IDF Soldiers Soon Shifted From > > Lebanon to Israel > > > > By TRISH SCHUH > > > > A team of Israeli lawyers is now suing the Lebanese government for > > starting the war. The case, to be filed in US civil court, will sue > > for > > compensation and damages incurred by Israeli residents and > > businesses as > > a result of the war. Attorneys Yehudah Talmon, Yoram Dantziger and > > Nitzah > > Libai claim the Lebanese government violated international law > > because it > > didn't stop Hezbollah's casus belli cross-border raid against Israel. > > > > Israel's justification for its 'self-defense' attack on Lebanon, > > and the > > placement of the original "provocation" will take on new legal > > significance in coming months. Who infiltrated whom, and on what > > territory did the initial capture of the IDF soldiers occur? Differing > > press accounts stating that the capture occurred in Lebanon- not > > Israel- > > are now widely known: most frequently cited are AFP, Hindustan Times, > > Deutsch Press Agency, Asia Times, Bahrain News Agency and Voltairenet. > > Others reflect changes of direction in the recording of basic facts. > > > > Newsweek's Michael Hirsh of MSNBC.com, on July 12, said: "As a result, > > things are blowing up so quickly it's difficult to know where to focus > > any longer. After the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers by > > Hizbullah in > > Lebanon on Wednesday, which the hard-line group linked to a similar > > kidnapping by Hamas the week before, the mideast seemed to be > > closer to > > all-out war." > > > > By July 13, the story out of MSNBC.com's Jerusalem bureau was > > different. > > In a piece titled "Crisis allows Israel to pursue strategic goals- > > Kidnappings give Israel excuse to neutralize Hamas, Hezbollah", > > Jerusalem > > bureau chief Steven Gutkin wrote: "Kidnappings changed everything: All > > that changed Wednesday, when Hezbollah guerillas crossed into Israel, > > seizing Goldwasser and Regev and killing eight other soldiers in the > > ensuing fighting." > > > > AP also ran changed versions. On July 12, at 5:41AM Joseph Panossian > > wrote: "The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers > > during > > clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon, prompting a > > swift reaction from Israel, which sent ground forces into its > > neighbor to > > look for them." > > > > At 7:09 AM, Panossian had altered his report: "The Hezbollah militant > > group captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes along the Lebanese > > border on Wednesday." > > > > By late afternoon, at 4:13 PM, AP's Panossian had completely shifted > > location: "Hezbollah militants crossed into Israel on Wednesday and > > captured two Israeli soldiers. Israel responded in southern Lebanon > > with > > warplanes, tanks and gunboats, and said eight of its soldiers had been > > killed in the violence." > > > > Israeli sources went almost unnoticed. Cybercast News Service > > (CNSNews.com) of July 12 said: "The abduction of two Israeli > > soldiers by > > Hizbullah militants in southern Lebanon was not a terrorist attack > > but an > > act of war, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Wednesday." > > > > Australia's ABC News (Reuters) on July 13 quoted the IDF: "The sources > > say the Israeli soldiers had been seized at around 9am local time > > across > > the border from Aita al Shaab, some 15 kilometers from the > > Mediterranean > > coast. The Israeli army confirmed that two Israeli soldiers had been > > captured on the Lebanese frontier. Israeli ground forces crossed into > > Lebanon to hunt for the missing soldiers, Israeli Army Radio said." > > > > Voice of America, Jerusalem, on July 12 said: "Speaking to reporters > > outside the Israeli Foreign Ministry, spokesman Mark Regev says > > Hezbollah > > is responsible for the violence. "It appears we have an escalation > > in the > > North," he said. "It is very clear that the escalation started on the > > Lebanese side of the border, and Israel will respond appropriately." > > > > In his article "Casus Belli", IDF Brigadier General Moshe Yaalon > > wrote: > > "The present crisis was initiated- in Gaza by Hamas and in southern > > Lebanon by Hezbollah- from lands that are not under Israeli > > occupation." > > New Republic, July 31. > > > > A quote by Hamas political bureau member Mohammad Nazzal in the > > July 13 > > edition of Haaretz said: "This is a heroic operation carried out > > against > > military targets and so it is a legitimate operation, especially as it > > took place in occupied Lebanese territory." > > > > A Lebanese government official told this writer that the first > > information about the soldiers' capture in southern Lebanon came > > from the > > Lebanese Army Police, a source also quoted in many media accounts. "At > > the beginning the Lebanese Army said it was on the Lebanese side," the > > official told me. The verbatim Army communique' to the Lebanese > > government follows: " 'At 9:03 or 9:05am in the vicinity or in > > front of > > Ayt Al Shaab village the members of the resistance have abducted two > > soldiers. At 9:15am the resistance shelled the position of the > > enemy in > > the occupied territories. At 10:10am the Resistance and Israeli forces > > clashed with each other in the area of Naqoura,' on Lebanon's side > > of the > > border." > > > > Lebanon's Ambassador to the US, Farid Abboud discussed the events > > publicly on July 12, 2006. Because of his stance to CNN Abboud was > > reprimanded, and recalled to Lebanon._ > > > > MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN International: "You say that you don't want any > > escalations, but ... > > > > FARID ABBOUD: No, we don't. > > > > HOLMES: ... but crossing over the border into Israel, killing and-- > > seizing soldiers, what did you think would happen? > > > > ABBOUD: I'm not sure where the location of the attack took place. I > > understand that there was another battle, also, where during which the > > Israelis crossed Lebanese soil and that the casualties that fell then > > were inside Lebanon territory ... We do not want any escalation, and I > > don't think we have ever attacked Israel. I mean, Israel has always > > occupied our territory, and we have always defended ourselves. Our > > position has always been very reactive, defensive. > > > > This writer then spoke to the chief of the Lebanese Defense Cabinet > > General Edmond Fadel in Beirut for clarification. He said he was not > > authorized to speak on Hezbollah's position. > > > > Hezbollah's position had been cited in the Jerusalem Post of July 12 : > > "Hizbullah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said the timing of the > > capture > > of two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon on Wednesday would > > boost the > > position of Palestinians in Gaza." > > > > It was a view Hezbollah spokesman Ibrahim Mousawi had reiterated to > > me on > > July 16 by phone. He insisted that the crisis occurred on the Lebanese > > side of the border "in front of the village of Ayt Al Shaab" > > adjacent to > > a military post. > > > > On August 2, I discussed the kidnapping issue again with Hezbollah's > > Mousawi in Beirut. > > > > Q: We spoke earlier on July 16, 2006 about this issue and I would > > like to > > make it official. The Lebanese Army has claimed that the Israeli > > soldiers > > captured on July 12, 2006 were captured in Lebanon, not Israel as > > we hear > > in the US. Were they caught inside Israel or Lebanon? > > > > MOUSAWI: How can you possibly say Israel? This is an occupied land, > > occupied Palestine. > > > > Q: Alright. Was it in occupied Palestine or Lebanon? > > > > MOUSAWI: It was in Lebanon, on the border. > > > > Q: On the border- What town? Where was it near? > > > > MOUSAWI: There is no town. It was a military post. > > > > Q: Did Hezbollah cross over into Israel? > > > > MOUSAWI: This has never been claimed by Hezbollah- only on the border. > > And don't say Israel- its occupied Palestine. > > > > Q: The IDF soldiers in the tank who hit the mine and were killed? > > > > MOUSAWI: It was all in the Lebanese lands when they wanted to > > penetrate- > > to go after the resistance.... No one believes anymore that this is > > about > > the two soldiers, not with the destruction of the infrastructure. > > Besides, Hezbollah got information that this Israeli aggression was > > scheduled to take place this September or October... > > > > According to Attorney Yehudah Talmon, Israelis will also sue to > > collect > > money from Lebanese assets and property in the United States. "No > > group > > associated in any way, shape or form to Hizbullah is immune to these > > claims." Never mind if the claims are based on shifting boundaries. > > > > Trish Schuh wrote on the coming Hezbollah-IDF border crisis in > > Counterpunch's "Faking the Case Against Syria" in November, 2005. > > She was > > a co-founder of Military Families Support Network and is a member of > > Military Reporters & Editors covering the middle east. > > > > Trish Schuh writes about Middle East politics. She can be reached at: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Alamaine, IVe > > Grand Forks, ND, US of A > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > "All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusion is called a > > philosopher." - Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914) > > > > Don't ask about caste or riches but instead ask about conduct. Look > > at the flames of a fire. Where do they come from? From a piece of > > wood"and it doesn't matter what wood. In the same way, a wise > > person can come from wood of any sort. It is through firmness and > > restraint and a sense of truth that one becomes noble, not through > > caste. -Sutta Nipata > > ~~~~~~~ > > In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this > > site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior > > interest in receiving the included information for research and > > educational purposes. > > > > > > > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! 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