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June 3, 2008 -- Soros' destabilization of the Balkans: Creating a haven for drug trafficking publication date: Jun 3, 2008 Download Print Previous | Next June 3, 2008 -- Soros' destabilization of the Balkans: Creating a haven for drug trafficking George Soros, the multi-billionaire funder of progressive causes, has made no secret of his desire for drug legalization. The wish has made Soros a darling for not only progressives but libertarians as well. However, according to FBI sources, Soros' support for the destabilization of the Balkans, particularly the cause of Kosovo's independence, has enabled drug trafficking in the region to increase exponentially. FBI intercepts of Turkish and Albanian intercepts have shown collusion between certain Western "pro-democracy" non- governmental organizations (NGOs) and the Kosovo drug trade. Soros' Open Society Institute (OSI) and his stewardship of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty helped elevate, with the help of then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) leader Hashim Thaci from terrorist thug and drug and arms smuggler to Prime Minister of an independent Kosovo. Kosovo, along with Israel and Greek Cyprus, now plays host to organized criminal syndicates from around the world, particularly elements of the Russian-Israeli mafia and its affiliates. Independent Kosovo now serves as an important hub for the distribution of heroin from Afghanistan and cocaine from Colombia (mostly via Guinea-Bissau in West Africa). Afghanistan and Colombia are both surrogates of the United States and examples of the marquis "democratization" pushed by OSI and Freedom House and the International Crisis Group, other contrivances funded by Soros. The Albanian government, also enmeshed in drug smuggling, provides important diplomatic and political cover for the Kosovo criminal syndicates. Kosovo-based narco-terrorists now threaten neighboring countries. Recent violence in Macedonia's election can be traced to Albanian Kosovo-based provocateurs who have been able to stir up Albanian minority passions thanks to Soros' insistence that Albanian be granted second official language status in largely Slavic Macedonia. Montenegro is similarly plagued by Kosovo Albanian smugglers who operate freely from the southern part of that nation. Comments 2 tut anon (usa) If Soros supports "drug legalization", that's unusual for someone who's purportedly making money from the drug trade, which is usually thought to flourish only when drugs are illegal. 2 tut anon (usa) I've just skimmed through the previous posts and comments on the Soros story. Readers of this site might take a look at "A Brief History of Neoliberalism", by David Harvey. Neoliberalism is the theoretical under-pinning of a broad trend in capitalism over the last thirty years, which includes de-regulation of private business, trade and financial transactions, privatization of public resources, shrinking of government services and the social safety net, and many specific forms of "vulture capitalism", creative destruction, "disaster capitalism", etc. This global movement was a response to shrinking profits and markets that started in the seventies, was prompted by the squawks of individual business and financial interests, followed by the rationalizations of think tanks, and eventually melded together in an ideology which political figures could sell to their constituents (e.g., Thatcher and Reagan). As Kait and others point out, in this broad economic trend, Soros is simply one of many players (possibly an early one, an "innovator", or possibly just an opportunist, like Milken or the hedge-fund guys.) My point is, the phenomenon of neo-liberalism (or vulture capitalism) is a broad, economic one, not the creation of any individual. Marlys (Seattle) and the rich get richer and somehow that means they know what's best for the rest of us. nierika (San Diego, CA) George Soros on the US Greenback BBC - George Soros on the financial crisis March 2008 Oil prices: George Soros warns that speculators could trigger stock market crash Guardian UK Graeme Wearden June 3 2008 http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jun/03/commodities George Soros, the billionaire hedge fund manager, will warn later today that the oil price has become a bubble that could trigger a stock market crash The Financial Times reported today that Soros will tell the US Senate commerce committee that oil was pushed to its recent all-time peak of $135 a barrel by a new wave of speculators He believes that the doubling in the price over the last year is partly due to investment institutions, such as pension funds, who are pumping money into indexes that track the cost of crude According to the FT, Soros will warn that there could be very serious consequences for global stock markets if the institutions suddenly began betting on a fall in the oil price He compares it with the stock market crash of 1987, which was partly caused by a sudden rush of money into portfolio insurance – which institutions used to protect themselves against a fall in share prices "In both cases, the institutions are piling in on one side of the market and they have sufficient weight to unbalance it. If the trend were reversed and the institutions as a group headed for the exit as they did in 1987 there would be a crash," said Soros, in remarks prepared for a committee hearing later today Institutional investors can use index funds to bet on the future trends of a commodity such as oil, in the same way that such funds are used to track the performance of a stock market index like the FTSE Last week, the Senate commerce committee heard that the amount of money pumped into commodity-index investing has soared to $260bn (£132bn) this year, from $13bn in 2003 Soros himself is no stranger to market speculation, having made a profit of around $1bn in 1992 betting that the UK government would be unable to keep sterling within the European Exchange Rate Mechanism uhClem (Keene) Thanks for filling us in on Soros lately. Too bad that there can't be a real sugardaddy for the progressive left--only a coopter. Typical. Bill Wade (Exeter) Speculator Soros warns that speculators could crash stock market. Lord Sacrificer and his leaches (whoville 2 clicks from suckerville) The Rich get richer and the "suckers" get the interest payment on the ha,ha,ha PUBLIC DEBT. he,he,he WHICH CAN NEVER EVER EVER BE PAID OFF. Lord Sacrificer and his leaches (whoville 2 clicks from suckerville) little ditty goes like this "Got me no money for this or that, but always got plenty for WAR,WAR,WAR. Ain't that special" Isn't that amazing? liberty antigone (?) I heard Soros this morning on CSpan testifying in congress with his huge dr. Strangelove-Kissinger accent. He was speaking at the same time as a very eloquent man who is a professor of law at the University of Maryland,Michael Greenberg, who was educating the congress about the real facts of the oil industry. He said that the criminals who break our laws should be hunted down, and that as a previous regulatory person in our Justice Department, you could and should prosecute companies for speculation and gouging. Soros was definitely playing liberal green sheep under his wolf's vulture capitalist clothing. Michael Greenberg, the professor, said that the people who want to do business in America, are not going to just disappear, since they live in the Hamptons and their business is in America. He spoke of some trader from Britian who was literally crying on the phone to do business in USA. You have done a great service in unmasking a wolf of vulture capitialism, who has been hiding out in the left in sheeps mask, Mr. Madsen. liberty antigone (?) WATCH ON CSPAN TODAY Manipulation of Energy Prices Today Recently, investor George Soros told the London Telegraph that the speculative bubble driving oil prices would only fall when the U.S. & England entered a recession. Soros is one of the witnesses at today's Senate Commerce Cmte. hearing on energy market manipulation. Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) chairs the hearing. Sec. Rice, AIPAC Subpoena Resisted AIPAC Website From Earlier Rocketing Oil Price is a Bubble http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/05/26/cnsoros126.xml George Soros: rocketing oil price is a bubble By Edmund Conway, Economics Editor Last Updated: 6:01pm BST 03/06/2008 He said: "The dislocations will be greater [than in the 1970s] because you also have the implications of the house price decline, which you didn't have in the 1970s." The warning undermines predictions that Britain will suffer only a brief and relatively painless recession, unlike the precipitous dives of previous years. Mr Soros also warned that the Bank's inflation report represents a "Faustian pact", obliging it to keep interest rates high to control inflation, even as the economy is starting to slump. "You had the nice decade," he said. "Now that is over and you are in a straitjacket." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ maybe Americans should wake up, haven't we had enough foxes guarding the hen houses of our public offices? nierika (San Diego, CA) Kevin Phillips - Bad Money: the Global Crisis of American Capitalism Author and columnist, Kevin Phillips, talks about his newest book, BAD MONEY: RECKLESS FINANCE, FAILED POLITICS, AND THE GLOBAL CRISIS OF AMERICAN CAPITALISM. Bill Wade (Exeter) the answer, Ron Paul. Bill Wade (Exeter) the problem, George Bush nierika (San Diego, CA) A CRUDE AWAKENING - THE OIL CRASH "The Age of Oil — 100-plus years of astonishing economic growth made possible by cheap, abundant oil — could be ending without our really being aware of it. Oil is a finite commodity. At some point even the vast reservoirs of Saudi Arabia will run dry. But before that happens there will come a day when oil production 'peaks,' when demand overtakes supply (and never looks back), resulting in large and possibly catastrophic price increases that could make today's $60-a- barrel oil look like chump change.. David Currie (Portland, OR) 2 tut anon (usa) If Soros supports "drug legalization", that's unusual for someone who's purportedly making money from the drug trade, which is usually thought to flourish only when drugs are illegal. SUPPORTING DRUG LEGALIZATION IS JUST BLOWING SMOKE (DRUGS STILL ILLEGAL). I've just skimmed through the previous posts and comments on the Soros story. Readers of this site might take a look at "A Brief History of Neoliberalism", by David Harvey. I THINK MOST PEOPLE HERE ARE WELL AWARE OF WHAT NEO-LIBERALISM IS. Soros is simply one of many players...My point is, the phenomenon of neo-liberalism (or vulture capitalism) is a broad, economic one, not the creation of any individual. NOBODY HERE SAID SOROS "CREATED" NEO-LIBERALISM, BUT HE IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT "PLAYERS". SOROS IS AN AGENT OF THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD - WHICH IS THE LEADING INSTIGATOR OF NEO-LIBERALISM. EVERYTHING SOROS DOES, HE DOES ON BEHALF OF THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD. SOROS IS A MEGALOMANIAC WHO IS ALLOWED TO PRETEND HE IS A GENIUS... Bill Wade (Exeter) Heating oil is at $4.50 a gallon here now. We're going from 40% wood burning/60% oil to 80% wood/20% oil. That should save us about $3000., but it's a lot of work. Lord Sacrificer and his leaches (whoville 2 clicks from suckerville) Hoarding all the oil, money and food is fun. It makes us "special and really important." And our American government helps us to be rotten and self-centered and the "little people get the debt and we control them through that. ha,ha,ha Kait (Michigan) It's the intelligence services for globalization that are producing the destabilization of the Balkans, Soros is only one globalist. http://www.augustreview.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6&Itemid=4 Misinformation through the Internet The Internet has become one of the most consulted sources of information. An essential characteristic of the Internet is its many- to-many character. People who seek information can access the medium without much difficulty. For people who provide information it is almost equally easy to distribute information. Because of both the ease with which the information is accessible and the ease with which information can be dispersed, it is also relatively easy to be misled and to mislead, intentionally or unintentionally. Because information on the Internet can be the basis of moral decisions and actions, the reliability of that information is morally significant. The exact character of the problematic status of misinformation through the Internet can be made more explicit by some reflection on criteria for assessing the reliability of information. In judging the reliability of information, we can use primary criteria of reliability. These are, for instance, requirements of consistency, coherence, accuracy, and accordance with observations. Now, seekers of information themselves are often unable to assess the reliability of information in relation to the aforementioned primary criteria. They are mostly no experts, and sometimes lack even the slightest knowledge of the topics about which they seek information. This applies equally to information published through the traditional media and to information published through new media such as the Internet. In order to judge whether one can trust the quality of information in the traditional media, most people seem to apply what I will call secondary epistemic criteria. Secondary epistemic criteria have to do with the authority, trustworthiness and credibility that are assigned to persons or organizations behind the information. Viewed rather superficially, this assignment of authority, trustworthiness and credibility may seem to happen on the basis of just the history of these persons or organizations, their reputation or their having others standing surety for them. On a deeper level, however, the application of secondary epistemic criteria appears to be based on an intricate complex of backgrounds of all kinds of manifest or latent recognition procedures for persons and organizations, traditions of reputations and usage. Most of these are built in or embedded in conventions, social and institutional arrangements and practices. People look for traces of the reliability of the information and of the information provider by gathering all kinds of indications about the background and the institutional setting of the source of information. People can find out, for example, whether the provider works at a university, what kind of university this is, whether it has a good reputation, whether it is recognized as one where people work according to commonly accepted methodological criteria, etc. Also, people seem to be attentive to the context in which the information is offered or made accessible, such as a university library, a reputed scientific journal, etc. The very possibility of applying these kinds of secondary criteria is often lacking where the Internet is concerned. Often, the content provider is anonymous or has only a virtual identity. Generally, the influence of individuals in the process of providing information on the Internet is diminishing, whereas the influence of intelligent systems is growing. Also, the lack of traditional intermediaries (such as libraries, librarians, specialized publishers) may have a negative influence on the capabilities of information seekers to assess the reliability of information. These kinds of factors, i.e. the lack of information about content providers, the diminishing human influence in the provision of information, and the lack of traditional intermediaries, are responsible for the fact that an information seeker often lacks clues or any indication whatsoever about the character, background, and institutional setting of the content provider. Adding to and further complicating the problem is the globalization which goes hand in hand with the Internet. Even when the recipient has some information about the content provider, he might not be able to estimate the credibility of that provider. This is so, simply because often he will not be acquainted with backgrounds and institutional settings from all over the world, completely different societies, with completely different cultures. The recognition procedures and traditions that make up the institutional basis of the application of secondary epistemic criteria may be different in different cultures. A recipient from one culture may not recognize the procedures and traditions of the provider from another culture. It could even be, that if the recipient from one culture were able to recognize them, he or she would not accept them. Possible solutions to the problem of misinformation through the Internet, to my mind, are to be found in two strategies. These are not mutually exclusive but rather mutually supportive. The first strategy is one of developing critical attitudes in recipients. The second strategy consists of enabling people to apply secondary epistemic criteria to the Internet by creating (an analogue of) the institutionally embedded credibility conferring systems. Specifying and implementing the two strategies as such is already difficult. Additional complexities, however, arise from the obvious possibilities of normative conflicts between the realization of reliability enhancing measures on the one hand, and normative principles regarding individual autonomy, the freedom to provide and to gather information, and privacy norms, on the other hand. For reasons of enhancing reliability of information on the Internet one may, for instance, consider restricting the possibilities of dispersing information anonymously. Doing so, however, may be detrimental to privacy and to the freedom of speech. Something similar will be the case with teaching people and enabling them to take a critical distance towards information on the Internet. A point where empowerment of individuals changes into paternalistic meddling is all too easily attained. Finally, the prevailing global moral pluralism must be taken into account when credibility conferring systems are designed or renovated, not only because different moral outlooks and varieties of moral viewpoints perhaps ought to be tolerated and respected. It is rather a matter of effectiveness. Where systems clash with deeply felt convictions, they will not be accepted. Anton Vedder Tilburg University, Faculty of Law Tilburg University, Schoordijk Institute, Faculty of Law P.O. Box 90153, 5000 LE Tilburg, The Netherlands +31 13 466 3443 (phone) +31 13 466 80 47 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kait (Michigan) Forbes The Speaker Of The House Vs. The Billionaire Michael Maiello, 09.01.04, 12:05 PM ET Speaking extemporaneously on television this weekend, U.S. Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R.-Ill.) left Fox News viewers wondering if he had actually just accused billionaire hedge fund manager and philanthropist George Soros of taking money from drug dealers. With a few days to think about his comments, and an angry letter from Soros to mull over, Hastert has decided not to apologize. "Of course the Speaker doesn't think he gets money from drug cartels," says Hastert's press secretary, John Feehery. Viewers of News Corp.'s (nyse: NWS - news - people ) Fox News Sunday, hosted by Chris Wallace, might have been left with a different impression when a discussion between Hastert and Wallace meandered to the topic of Soros, who has used his deep pockets to oppose the re- election of President Bush by funding 527 political interest groups. Here's the exchange: "HASTERT: ...you know, I don't know where George Soros gets his money. I don't know where--if it comes overseas or from drug groups or where it comes from. And I... WALLACE: Excuse me? HASTERT: Well, that's what he's been for a number of years-- George Soros has been for legalizing drugs in this country. So, I mean, he's got a lot of ancillary interests out there. WALLACE: You think he may be getting money from the drug cartel? HASTERT: I'm saying I don't know where groups--could be people who support this type of thing. I'm saying we don't know. The fact is we don't know where this money comes from." This morning, Soros faxed off an angry letter to Hastert, saying, "For the Speaker of the House of Representatives, even in the midst of a political season, to descend to a level of political discourse where innuendo and slander replace reason, truth and argument is unacceptable." Soros demanded that Hastert "...either substantiate these claims--which you cannot do because they are false--or publicly apologize for attempting to damage my character and defame my reputation." Feehery blames Wallace for introducing the phrase "drug cartel" into the discussion and, even though Hastert made no attempt to correct the host, Feehery says Hastert was referring only to political organizations that support legalizing drugs and not to their purveyors. Feehery said Hastert wouldn't apologize for disagreeing with Soros "radical positions." Feehery says Hastert's real issue is the lack of transparency in the funding of political groups known as 527s, which are not governed by advertising spending limits so long as they don't coordinate their activities with any candidate. "The Speaker said we don't know where Mr. Soros gets his money," Feehery said. To figure that out, Hastert need look no further than the Forbes 400 list of richest Americans. Soros, whose wealth is currently estimated at $7 billion, earned his stash as one of the most successful money managers in the hedge fund industry. His network of foundations and charities donates more than $450 million to causes each year. Hula (Honolulu, HI) I had read, years ago, that Mr. Soros manipulates the markets by going on CNBC, etc. and telling everyone where the markets are going. Unbeknownst to them, he has already purchased gobs of shares in whatever industry he is promoting. When everyone else starts buying, he sells and makes a fortune. If he's predicting that oil will fall, he's planning to buy. I believe the price of a barrel of oil fell substantially in the last couple days. He probably had purchased options that it would fall before he went on television. David Currie (Portland, OR) Kait (Michigan) It's the intelligence services for globalization that are producing the destabilization of the Balkans, Soros is only one globalist. _____________________ Soros is only one "globalist", but name someone who is more publicly powerful, or who has as much money and influence, or who actively uses their insider knowledge to destroy entire economies... Soros may be one globalist, but he is not just another one - he is BIG. The intelligence services work for the globalists, NOT the governments. The primarly "globalists" are the Rothschild crime syndicate, which likely owns over half of the worlds wealth. It can't be proven, but it's likely their worth is in excess of 500 Trillion dollars, maybe even over a Quadrillion if you consider everything they own (including much of the planets land and resources). The annual Bilderberger four day meeting might as well be called the "Rothschild meeting", because that's who probably orchestrates it. At the Bilderberger meeting they have lots of CIA, MI6, and other intelligence agents there to "protect" the super-rich. If they aren't working for governments, then why the presence of "government" intelligence agents? All the intelligence agencies work for the same masters - the globalists. The controlled media (ie: Forbes) does its best to propagandize for Soros, which makes sense since Rothschild and Soros own so much of the controlled media. Soros has long been attacked by the right for his support of drug legalization. This is the same old dog and pony show though, and the Rothschild agents and quislings control both sides of the act. Hastart and Soros both work for the same masters. The Rothschild syndicate has long controlled both sides of all important issues: they import the illegal drugs AND fund the DEA and other drug-war assets. They create the terrorism AND the police-state that results to "protect" the population. Kait (Michigan) George Bush! liberty antigone (?) http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20080531 "...In reality, what Soros and his friends have accomplished is to transform nations like Poland, the Czech Republic, the Baltic states, Georgia, Ukraine, and others into vassal states of NATO, the World Bank, and predatory vultures like the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the billionaire investors in the Carlyle Group, and subservient politicians ranging from Tony Blair and John Major to the Bushes, Nicolas Sarkozy, Stephen Harper, and Angela Merkel. In fact, Soros is an investor in the Carlyle Group. Small world. Working hand-in-glove with the neo-con "perception management" firms in Washington, DC, Soros funded the neocons' favorite form of upheaval -- the "themed revolution" -- including, the Rose Revolution in Georgia, the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, and the Tulip Revolution in Kyrgyzstan. These revolutions resulted in regimes coming to power that gave aid and comfort to exiled Russian-Israeli oligarchs targeting the Kremlin, favored membership in NATO or the hosting of American military bases, and unbridled privatization of state-owned enterprises at the expense of the people. Soros and his global fraternity of money-hungry speculators are now anxiously licking their chops at the prospect of further privatization of America's public commons: public highways, bridges, turnpikes, water utilities, and other public infrastructure assets. Who has their gaze on the prospect of turning America's public and toll roads over to private interests? The Russian-Israeli mobsters who specialize in automatic debiting systems pioneered in their gambling dens and casinos in Las Vegas, Atlantic City, and Native American reservations across the country. Money grabbing and money laundering united through technology. David Currie (Portland, OR) Hula (Honolulu, HI) I had read, years ago, that Mr. Soros manipulates the markets by going on CNBC, etc. and telling everyone where the markets are going. Unbeknownst to them, he has already purchased gobs of shares in whatever industry he is promoting. When everyone else starts buying, he sells and makes a fortune. ____________________ Exactly Hula - that's an old Rothschild trick he uses. Google "Soros Rothschild" and you'll find a lot of interesting reading. Now Soros is proposing that tactics he used to become rich should be regulated and taxed! The more I learn about Soros, the more I dislike him personally. He is not a brilliant intellect IMO, although he considers himself such. IMO his success is due primarily to his Rothschild connection - he is "their boy" it appears. Soros also considers himself to be God, but he doesn't believe in God either... He also considers himself to possibly be mad, and that seems likely. liberty antigone (?) Hegelian dialectic, provide the problem, (food shortage), provide the solution (police state, or war for the narco traffic disguised as war for food, or fascist USA PATRIOT 3 Act) as Mr. Madsen pointed out. liberty antigone (?) György Schwartz, or as he likes to be called, Soros, a Greek name, should be called by his real name. David Currie (Portland, OR) Kait (Michigan) George Bush! ________________ Oh please Kait - you don't REALLY mean that do you? I didn't even think of politicians,because they are all bought and kept by international financiers. I admit the president of the USA appears to be a powerful position, the "most powerful man in the world" the controlled media would say, but I don't believe he has any real power or decides anything. Do you REALLY think Georgie boy has any power or influence over world events, other than being an actor playing CEO of USA inc., who does what he is told to do. If you had said "Dick Cheney", that would be closer, but once out of office he won't have as much influence. Soros has been around for decades, and he is only becoming evermore powerful... Kait (Michigan) Here are just three globalist groups that have been working to change the world order. Just the tip of the iceberg. All started in the US. Citizens for Global Solutions Nancy Pelosi represents Democratic World Federalists World Federalist Movement Kait (Michigan) The Bush family dynasty is one of the most powerful in the world. Kait (Michigan) Hegel maintains that the juxtaposition and violent interaction of binary oppositions will continue until a position is reached which is so perfectly balanced that no new antithesis can arise, because there are no extremes left to form a thesis. This bland-sounding paradise is what Hegel calls THE ABSOLUTE IDEA, and history is the process of human civilization working toward this end point, motivated by a spiritual force which Hegel calls the WORLD-SPIRIT or WORLD-MIND. Because the ultimate cause of progress in Hegel's view of history is an abstract force, we call his philosophy a form of idealism (there are many philosophical ideas which merit this description). Karl Marx later accepts Hegel's idea of the dialectical process as the mainspring of inevitable human progress, but he rejects Hegel's explanation that all this is due to some abstract force seeking perfection. David Currie (Portland, OR) Did you think of that about Hegel yourself Kait, or did you cut and paste from wikipedia? In either case, WHY? You took a simple concept, and garbled it with a bunch of arcane language designed to make it appear you have a superior intellect. You are nothing if not transparent! The Bush family dynasty are mearly useful idiots IMO, and aren't even billionaires officially. I'm sure pappy has lots of stolen booty hidden in various havens, and they did name the CIA headquarters after him, but then look who they named the FBI headquarters after... The Bush crime family did buy up all that land over the South America's largest aquafer (even sent young bushette to seal the deal), knowing water is the most important resource. Genocide will be executed using thirst, starvation, and disease, aided by vaccines and drugs. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates each gave over 30 billion dollars so far to encourage the elites policy of population reduction. Many other famous super-rich people have contributed to global population reduction, most notably Ted Turner. Bertrand Russell wanted to reincarnate as a deadly virus to wipe-out huge populations - what a dreamer! Eugenics has never gone away, it's just called different names now. Gates, Buffet and the others are feted as great philanthropists, when in fact they are supporting genocidal policies. Kait (Michigan) You have a real ego problem among other things. Kait (Michigan) You rattle on and on in and endless cacophony of conspiracies. You go round and round like a hamster on his wheel and you just don't know how to get off do you? David Currie (Portland, OR) Nothing I can do about it, I know... They have a human sized hamster wheel over at Reed College that I sometimes run on. It's actually quite invigorating to do - the hamsters are on to something I tell you! ___________________ One more "conspiracy". Has anyone every heard of the Georgia Guidestones? I saw them for the first time in Alex Jones "End Game" video today, so I googled it. Apparently they were made by the same occult group that made the Denver airports' strange "art" and monuments "New World Airport Commission". Atlanta and Denver are two centers of the secret government of the elite, and will be they will be the capitols of their future regions. Bizarro. http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm David Currie (Portland, OR) Some usernet info on Georgia Guidestones: http://tinyurl.com/6ykrqk (snipet) The Hopi Indians and their ancient shamans say "signs" will foretell the time when the fifth world, a new age, will begin. Many believe we now stand on the threshold of changing events which will bring about the end of one world period and the beginning of another. Ancient prophecies state that when stone tablets are returned to the center of the world the new age will begin. There are varied interpretations in many different cultures regarding what "the center of the world" means and where it is. Northeast Georgia was an assembly ground for the great Cherokee Indian Nation before the white man's greed for gold brought about the Trail of Tears. Cherokee Indian trails radiated in all directions from what is now Elberton, Georgia, and the Cherokee Indians held their Councils, their dances and their worship services of the Great Spirit there. They called the area Al-yeh-li-A-lo-Hee, the Center of the World. On a June afternoon in 1979 a stranger arrived in Elberton, Georgia and visited Wyatt Martin, president of the Granite City Bank, and Joe Fendley, president of the Elberton Granite Finishing Company. The stranger introduced himself as "R. C. Christian" but quickly explained that "Christian" wasn't his real name and the name "R. C. Christian" was only symbolic. He deposited a large sum (rumored to be in excess of $50,000) in an escrow account at the bank to be used to construct a monument of stone monoliths engraved with guidelines for humanity. The stranger left precise details as to the constuction of the monument and its engravings. Before he left that same afternoon "Mr. R. C. Christian" said he followed the teachings of Jesus Christ and that he represented a small group of Americans who believed as he did, in God and country, and they wished to leave a message for future generations. He also told the bank and granite company presidents that he would never see them again. (end snipet) anti-neocon (O'Grady) Thanks so much for this important info about Soros and his promotions. I am just here learning about Thaci, and about Kosovo and Greek Cyprus (I already knew about Israel's) paying host to crime syndicates from around the world. Reading these reports is always soooo educational. Also, the videos and thoughts attached by the true lovers of the constitutional USA above are invaluable. Thanks all David Currie (Portland, OR) Kait (Michigan) The Bush family dynasty is one of the most powerful in the world. ___________________ During all the years Bush had influence, it was Kissinger who gave the orders for Rothschild and Rockefeller. The Bush crime family is huge, no doubt, but in the greater scheme of things they are WAY down the ladder of powerful crime families. They aren't even billionaires. During all the years Bush had influence and power behind the scenes, he decided nothing. Don't kid yourself, he is an IDIOT. Prescott Bush was just a Rothschild quisling too. Even Nixon said Poppy was an idiot, and he was no genius either... The president never has any power, rather he does as told by his masters. Carter was the same, whenever confronted with important decisions he would ask "what does Brezinski say about it?". Brezinski is the bookend to Kissenger, and another Rothschild strategist who guides the selected politicians... anti-neocon (O'Grady) And as we are fighting out from WMR, Brezinski was most likely a traitor to Carter, and, or course, to our country as it was then. anti-neocon (O'Grady) corr: "finding" not "fighting" and "of" not "or". Thanks. liberty antigone (?) June 3, 2008 -- Soros' destabilization of the Balkans: Creating a haven for drug trafficking Mr. Madsen, This is a shocking report. No wonder no one else writes about this. ------------------------------------ Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/