Turki was just on Zogby a few minutes ago. Turki sounded like he supports former US president Jimmy Carter's mideast peace initiative.
Turki and Zogby have a history: http://www.google.com/search?q=zogby+turki The Saudis are a monarchy, the Paks have been a dictatorship. Dinosaurs! Typical CIA as oligarchy trojan horse, and oligarchy having more than one trojan horse in its stable. If the oligarchy including Bush had not backed Hitler and assassinated President Kennedy and tortured and drugged US citizens in MKULTRA and other programs, and if Ed Lansdale had not taken out the pillars of a non-communist South Vietnam to make SVN(RVN) need US military intervention, then there would not have been the three investigations of CIA in the 1970's that the Safar Clubbers weakly excuse themselves by for continuing the same stinking monarchical oligarchy elite deviant counter-merit TREASON by means of Safari Club. They also use the Cold War excuse, as if we might really have needed Safari Club to prop up wheezing dictators in Africa and latin america and Indonesia in order to have any hope of resisting communism. (Gag!) Mobutu, Suharto, Pinochet, or communism, almost sounds like monarchy and dictatorship or communism, doesn't it? Same old motivational speech, and then we hear that CIA had no control, 911 was just blowback, CIA is just bureaucrats writing checks, oh please. It all works for the monarchs and oligarchs and corporations, doesn't it? Then stop whining, the wheezing dinosaurs are still ascendant, despite continuous rebuttal from logic, science, merit basis, their own track record, analogy, and everything but their own self flattery. Tottering oligarchy, dinosaur on its last legs perennially requiring so much life support; it's not worth it. That's the only lesson. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Mary Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is my belief that the Safari Club got it's name when Bush et. al. started using the brand new exotic animal "industry" to front money laundering and trafficking operations. The corporate cascade mapped across the US, with detailed printed plans of expansion and links to Johannisburg, South Africa and Guam showed a massive criminal enterprise. The Minneapolis DOJ/FBI/IRS buried it and put me on the NSA's "watch list" - according to AUSA Bill Koch in March of 2005 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/45600
