And while we're picking nits, should read "vendor NEUTRAL", not "vendor
agnostic"...unless you believe that nothing can be known / proven wrt the
existance of vendors. ;-)

-kevin
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On May 17, 2011 11:06 AM, "Cottrell Jr., James R." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sound good.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Bourget, Dennis
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 9:11 PM
> To: CICM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [cicm] BoF Request for CICM at IETF 81
>
> Again, I may be picking nits, but I still don't believe that the API
> offers any security domain separation.
> I would just delete "and thus offers".
>
> It would then read:
> "The API is intended to support high assurance cryptography, security
> domain separation, and
> enhanced module, key, and channel management capabilities that are
> vendor agnostic."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Novikov, Lev
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:54 PM
> To: CICM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [cicm] BoF Request for CICM at IETF 81
>
> On 2011-05-13 at 13:34, John Davidson wrote:
>> I am wondering if we need to (or even can) clarify what we mean by
>> High Assurance.
>
> On 2011-05-13 at 17:56, John Fitton wrote:
>> I would suggest defining High Assurance in terms of FIPS-140-2
>> Level 4. Of course FIPS 140-2 refers to the Common Criteria AL4 or
>> higher, but does offer specific criteria to be used in the evaluation.
>> That being said, however, while the stated goal is for a high
>> assurance API, there is nothing in principal which limits the API to
>> high assurance applications.
>
> On 2011-05-14 at 18:12, Dennis Bourget wrote:
>> I just don't see how any API can provide "high assurance", it is the
>> implementation of the API, host platform and operating system that
>> would need to be evaluated to FIPS 140-2 or Common Criteria. For
>> example, the API does not and cannot provide domain separation, I
>> suggest that we strike that text from the charter.
>
> On 2011-05-16 at 13:08, Jim Cottrell wrote:
>> I agree that the API by itself cannot provide "high assurance" but
>> this API has been designed to be targeted for use in high assurance
>> applications.
>
> Interesting discussion.
>
> What do people think of the following? It is based on Dennis's
> suggestion,
> but emphasizes that the API targets high assurance environments.
>
> The Common Interface to Cryptographic Modules (CICM) defines an
> application
> programming interface for the security services provided by
> cryptographic
> modules developed by multiple vendors. The API is intended to support
> high
> assurance cryptography, and thus offers security domain separation,
> and
> enhanced module, key, and channel management capabilities that are
> vendor
> agnostic.
>
> Lev
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