For completeness’ sake, I ran the same procedure against a Windows Server 2022 host, and got exactly the same STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER error. For MessageType I tried both 0x00000003 and 0x00000026 (and many other values, for good measure).

Cheers,
Jo (she/her)

On 10/07/24 2:08 pm, Jo Sutton via cifs-protocol wrote:
Hi Sreekanth,

I’m afraid that using 0x03 for the message type still gets me STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER codes.

0x03 is the message type corresponding to KERB_VERIFY_PAC_REQUEST, which is used for the older method of PAC verification. But the message I’m attempting to send is NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO ([MS-APDS] 2.2.2.1), which includes the entire Kerberos ticket and is used in the newer method of PAC verification.

What do I need to do to get Windows Server 2019 to accept a NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message? I don’t see any information indicating that Windows Server 2019 doesn’t support such messages.

Cheers,
Jo (she/her)

On 10/07/24 7:12 am, Sreekanth Nadendla wrote:
Hello Jo, can you change the message type from 0x00000026  ( byte sequence seen as 26 00 00 00 below)  to 0x00000003 (to indicate message type of KerbVerifyPacMessage) and try this again ?

0:002> db ProtocolSubmitBuffer L0x5e0

00000218`69819c80  26 00 00 00 00 00 11 00-21 00 31 00 c0 05 00 00   &.......!.1..... 00000218`69819c90  00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 c0 05 00 00   ................ 00000218`69819ca0  61 82 05 bc 30 82 05 b8-a0 03 02 01 05 a1 0d 1b   a...0...........
.. ..... .. ..... .. .....
.. ..... .. ..... .. .....
.. ..... .. ..... .. .....
00000218`6981a250  85 1d 35 87 38 7d b1 5b-52 c0 c3 e4 30 c8 77 7d   ..5.8}.[R...0.w}

Regards,

Sreekanth Nadendla

Microsoft Windows Open Specifications


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*From:* Jo Sutton <jsut...@samba.org>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 2, 2024 6:23 PM
*To:* Sreekanth Nadendla <srena...@microsoft.com>; cifs-protocol@lists.samba.org <cifs-protocol@lists.samba.org>
*Cc:* Microsoft Support <supportm...@microsoft.com>
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [cifs-protocol] [MS-APDS] NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message - TrackingID#2405210040011397
Thank you, Sreekanth. I’ve uploaded a trace and network capture of a
call to NetrLogonSamLogonEx() attempting to validate a service ticket.

Cheers,
Jo (she/her)

On 3/07/24 2:02 am, Sreekanth Nadendla wrote:
 > Hello Jo,  you may have gotten an invitation to upload files by now.
 > Please check your e-mail folders and let me know otherwise.
 >
 > Regards,
 >
 > Sreekanth Nadendla
 >
 > Microsoft Windows Open Specifications
 >
 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 > *From:* Jo Sutton <jsut...@samba.org>
 > *Sent:* Monday, July 1, 2024 10:01 PM
 > *To:* Sreekanth Nadendla <srena...@microsoft.com>;
 > cifs-protocol@lists.samba.org <cifs-protocol@lists.samba.org>
 > *Cc:* Microsoft Support <supportm...@microsoft.com>
 > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [cifs-protocol] [MS-APDS]
 > NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message - TrackingID#2405210040011397
 > On second thoughts, I’d rather not send traces via unencrypted email.
 > Can you provide somewhere for me to upload them?
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Jo (she/her)
 >
 > On 2/07/24 1:57 pm, Jo Sutton via cifs-protocol wrote:
 >> [moving back to cifs-protocol]
 >>
 >> Hi Sreekanth,
 >>
 >> Call me Jo :)
 >>
 >> As I can’t seem to upload the traces via the link you sent me, I’ll try
 >> to email them to you directly.
 >>
 >> The reason for asking about NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO is that we’re
 >> looking to address https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.samba.org%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D15249&data=05%7C02%7Csrenaden%40microsoft.com%7C75a58a64714f49fb27ff08dc9ae5974e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638555558091508750%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HMGP0yGxJKmnWCLFOEqNFxhu4wmRTFFEkmMglpvvdsk%3D&reserved=0 <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15249> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.samba.org%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D15249&data=05%7C02%7Csrenaden%40microsoft.com%7C75a58a64714f49fb27ff08dc9ae5974e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638555558091515894%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nk4AC9bEfOPKGFmU2TfyeuKEf1%2B10GWmqe82CuXJ9Cg%3D&reserved=0 <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15249>>.
 >>
 >> Cheers,
 >> Jo (she/her)
 >>
 >> On 14/06/24 3:39 am, Sreekanth Nadendla wrote:
 >>> Hello Joseph, I've sent you instructions to download time travel trace  >>> tool to collect traces for lass process earlier. But we were informed
 >>> by Andrew Bartlet that the reason why you've raised the login issue
 >>> with [MS-APDS] NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO is that you are looking to
 >>> resolve a privilege escalation problem via enforcement of PAC
 >>> verification.  I could not see how these two issues are connected
 >>> hence I'm unable to continue the investigation on my own (while you
 >>> are away dealing with a personal issue).
 >>> Please let us know whenever you are ready and we will gather the
 >>> details, data to investigate the issue you are experiencing.
 >>>
 >>> Regards,
 >>>
 >>> Sreekanth Nadendla
 >>>
 >>> Microsoft Windows Open Specifications
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> From: Jo Sutton <jsut...@samba.org>
 >>>
 >>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 9:49 PM
 >>> To: cifs-protocol@lists.samba.org <cifs-protocol@lists.samba.org>;
 >>> Interoperability Documentation Help <doch...@microsoft.com>
 >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [MS-APDS] NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message
 >>> [Some people who received this message don't often get email from
 >>> jsut...@samba.org. Learn why this is important at
 >>> https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification>  > <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification>> ]
 >>>
 >>> Hi dochelp,
 >>>
 >>> I’m trying to follow [MS-APDS] 2.2.2.1, “NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO
 >>> Message”, in order to create a NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message that  >>> will be accepted by Windows Server 2019. However, in my attempts so far,  >>> all I’ve got is STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER codes from NetrLogonSamLogonEx.
 >>>
 >>> Although [MS-APDS] doesn’t mention it, I assume
 >>> NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO should contain an unsigned 32‐bit MessageType
 >>> field, set to 0x00000026, that indicates the message is a
 >>> NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message. Other than that, I’m not sure what
 >>> I’m doing wrong. Are the ticket fields arrays, are depicted in the
 >>> diagram, or pointers, as claimed in the documentation?
 >>>
 >>> I can provide traces showing the problem if you would like.
 >>>
 >>> Cheers,
 >>> Jo (she/her)
 >>
 >>
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