Hi Obaid, If session setup responses are always signed I would like to understand why the signature verification fails when Hardened UNC Paths are configured with RequireMutualAuthentication=1, RequireIntegrity=1, RequirePrivacy=1 (Computer Configuration → Administrative Templates → Network → Network Provider → Hardened UNC Paths) and why the signature verification succeeds 1) when Hardened UNC Paths are not configured (e.g. the gpo is left at its not configured setting) 2) after logon when manually refreshing group policies with gpupdate /force.
Regards, Kacper On Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 20:34 Obaid Farooqi <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Kacper: > > Looking at the traces, here is what’s happening: > > 1. Just before sending the create request for gpt.ini, client > determines that it is a 3-part SPN and there fore it needs to > reauthenticate. > 2. Client sends a session setup request > 3. Server (in this case Samba DC) responds with session set up response > 4. Session set up response is always signed. Client tries to verify > the signature and that fails. > > > > Please let me know if this does not answer your question. > > > > Regards, > > Obaid Farooqi > > Sr. Escalation Engineer | Microsoft > > > > *From:* Kacper <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2025 4:30 AM > *To:* Obaid Farooqi <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Microsoft Support <[email protected]>; cifs-protocol < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Windows 11 does not appear to apply group > policies on logon when Hardened UNC paths are configured - > TrackingID#2512040040010550 > > > > Hi Obaid, > > > > I have not been able to reproduce this problem against a Windows DC. I've > uploaded the requested t.cmd traces to the secure file exchange. > > > > Regards, > > Kacper > > > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 at 21:13, Obaid Farooqi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Kacper: > > You’ll have to rename t.txt to t.cmd. Your email provider does not allow > .cmd files. > > > > Regards, > > Obaid Farooqi > > Sr. Escalation Engineer | Microsoft > > > > *From:* Obaid Farooqi > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2025 2:10 PM > *To:* 'Kacper' <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Microsoft Support <[email protected]>; 'cifs-protocol' < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Windows 11 does not appear to apply group > policies on logon when Hardened UNC paths are configured - > TrackingID#2512040040010550 > > > > > > Hi Kacper: > > I want to reproduce this for Windows to Windows. Please let me know the > exact steps and set up. > > > > Alternatively, you can collect ETW traces for me on the Windows 11 client. > The script I have attached to this email does not survive reboot. So, if > you can reproduce the scenario without rebooting, here are the steps. > > > > 1. Unzip and copy the file t.cmd on your windows 11 client. > 2. Login as administrator and in a cmd (elevated), execute the > following command: > >t.cmd clion > 3. Reproduce the scenario, which I guess will require you to log off > and login again (preferably as a different user) > 4. Once you see the error in Event Viewer, repro is complete. > 5. Open an elevated Cmd window and execute the following command: > >t.cmd clioff > 6. Upload the resulting t*.cab file to the link I provided you. > > > > Regards, > > Obaid Farooqi > > Sr. Escalation Engineer | Microsoft > > > > *From:* Obaid Farooqi > *Sent:* Monday, December 8, 2025 10:38 AM > *To:* 'Kacper' <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Microsoft Support <[email protected]>; cifs-protocol < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Windows 11 does not appear to apply group > policies on logon when Hardened UNC paths are configured - > TrackingID#2512040040010550 > > > > Hi Kacper: > > Thank you for the traces. I’ll look into them and get back to you as soon > as I have anything conceret. > > Regards, > > Obaid Farooqi > > Sr. Escalation Engineer | Microsoft > > > > *From:* Kacper <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, December 8, 2025 4:20 AM > *To:* Obaid Farooqi <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Microsoft Support <[email protected]>; cifs-protocol < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Windows 11 does not appear to apply group > policies on logon when Hardened UNC paths are configured - > TrackingID#2512040040010550 > > > > Hello Obaid, > > > > Thank you for taking over this issue. The issue occurs between a Windows > 11 client and a Samba DC. I’ve tested the same scenario against a Windows > DC, and it works correctly there. > My testing was done with Windows 11 (24H2, OS version 26100.7171) and > Samba 4.21.10. I’ve uploaded the network trace, the event log entry, and > the auth trace. > Manually running gpupdate /force after the user logs on works without any > issues. > > > I would like to understand why Windows fails to apply GPOs during logon when > Hardened UNC Paths are configured and the domain controller is Samba. > > > > Regards, > > Kacper > >
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