masa sich...???

with love,
theo roberto
 

--- On Fri, 11/28/08, hendri simatupang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: hendri simatupang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CiKEAS> Kesaksian tentang Peng-HARAM-an Yoga di Malaysia
To: CIKEAS@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 11:31 PM






Berbagi informasi saja.
Apapun namanya Yoga, Rieki, Prana, Kebathinan, Getaran pd Merpati Putih.
akan membuat pikiran menjadi kosong. Kekosongan pikiran tsb sering ditafsir 
sebagai wangsit bila mendapatkan sesuatu. Kekosongan itu akan diisi oleh alam 
hayal lain dari dunia paralel kita. Umumnya impuls syaraf IQ manusia tidak 
berkembang, namun insting akan meningkat laksana binatang.
Pancaran Aura memang meningkat, tetapi semu. 
Kalo cari pasangan lebih gampang, libido cukup tinggi, pasangan anda akan cukup 
puas lelaki bisa ejakulasi beberapa kali, dengan mengatur kundalini.
Tidaklah heran ajaran ini berkembang pesat. 
Kalau tidak mau jadi hewan jauhkan saja ajaran tsb, karena anda akan terganggu. 
Natural itu jauh lebih enak. Tidur lebih nyenyak.

salam
hens
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--- On Fri, 11/28/08, leonardo rimba <leonardo_rimba@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: leonardo rimba <leonardo_rimba@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: CiKEAS> Kesaksian tentang Peng-HARAM-an Yoga di Malaysia
> To: spiritual-indonesia @yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:35 AM
> Friends, berikut KESAKSIAN teman baik saya, seorang wanita
> Malaysia di Kuala Lumpur, tentang peng-HARAM-an Yoga oleh
> ulama Malaysia, enjoy !
> 
> + 
> 
> Dear Leo,
> 
> Just a quick note. I haven't been dropping in on Milis
> SI for quite a while, but since I miss reading your quips
> and discourse, I did yesterday and got onto some postings by
> some of SI veterans about the latest gaffe on Yoga over
> here. 
> 
> This is just one of the many stupidities inflicted upon us
> by half-baked religious bigots. 
> 
> As for me and the likes of me, we don't waste a breath
> discussing it, we just roll our eyes to heaven as we know
> that we live in different worlds and there is no point
> foaming at the mouth over it. 
> 
> But on the one hand, I actually do feel so pained by it all
> and at an earlier point in my life I just might cry my heart
> out in frustration. 
> 
> The Yoga ban is nothing but ignorance, also small
> mindedness, and jealousies that while all Muslim women go
> about with their heads covered (never mind if the covering
> is so bejewelled and the face so dolled up), there are Malay
> women who don't (how dare they?) and in fact go prancing
> about doing Yoga and stuff and enjoying it and earning good
> money from teaching it (there are many exclusive Yoga
> centres operated by 'modern' Malay women here who
> have nothing to do with Hindu philosophy). 
> 
> In the end it is the same small mindedness of puny human
> beings no doubt they seem to come from one particular
> religion (I suspect the latest carnage in Mumbai has to do
> with them too, as in so many other places in the world). 
> 
> But Leo, what I am dismayed about, which prompts me to
> write this time, is the spirit and tone of what I read in
> SI. I hope I am wrong, but I sense again this unspoken
> disdain about things Malaysian... . 
> 
> Does spirituality have national borders and boundaries? 
> 
> Can we not be supportive of each other if we know any
> better? 
> 
> Can we go a bit beyond merely passing remarks and instead
> be educational and uplifting? God knows we need it at this
> time in the world's cycle.
> 
> Daisy
> 
> +
> 
> KOMENTAR SAYA:
> 
> Thanks Daisy,
> 
> It's nice to hear from you. 
> 
> Actually Indonesians began to be "outraged" en
> masse exactly one day after the announcement by Malay
> ulemmas or whomever it was who pronounced the haram stuff. 
> 
> In my opinion, liberal and open-minded Indonesians have
> this kind of "perception" about Malaysia where the
> ulemmas are so unreasonable. 
> 
> So, when things turned rather badly as when the Indonesian
> Parliament passed the "Pornography Law", then one
> of the reasons cited for condemning the law was:
> 
> "Even Malaysia does NOT have a law like the
> Pornography Law".
> 
> Now, that kind of reasoning only justifiable when we accept
> the underlying assumption MANY Indonesians hold about
> Malaysia as the place where "funny" things happen.
> 
> 
> It follows that If Malaysia does NOT have a Pornography
> Law, then Indonesia is NOT justified to have one. Reason: It
> is NOT funny enough, or something like that.
> 
> Sure, spirituality has NO border, it spans from the North
> Pole to the South, and has NO color too... 
> 
> No color
> No time span
> Nothing in between
> Only You up there and Me down here who are 
> ALL OF US
> 
> There is nothing haram or halal whatsoever, only CHOICES. 
> 
> We choose whatever we wish to do with our own lives.
> 
> The stupid fatwa is only a memoriam, something to be
> recorded that ONCE we had such, just that.
> 
> All the Best,
> Leo
> Milis Spiritual Indonesia
> <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/spiritual- indonesia>.
> 
> 
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