Den 05.11.2022 23:25, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


вс, 6 нояб. 2022 г., 01:05 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:



    Den 05.11.2022 13:46, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


    сб, 5 нояб. 2022 г., 15:39 Terje J. Hanssen
    <[email protected]>:



        Den 03.11.2022 22:13, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


        чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 21:28 Terje J. Hanssen
        <[email protected]>:



            Den 03.11.2022 16:17, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


            чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 17:52 Terje J. Hanssen
            <[email protected]>:



                Den 03.11.2022 01:42, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu
                via Cin:


                чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 03:34 Andrew Randrianasulu
                <[email protected]>:



                    чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 03:14 Andrew
                    Randrianasulu <[email protected]>:

                        I think we can add some clarification

                        ---


                          HDV on a Blu-ray Disc Without Re-encoding

                        An MTS file is a video file saved in the
                        high-definition (HD) MPEG Transport Stream
                        video format, commonly called AVCHD. It
                        contains HD video compatible with Blu-ray
                        disc format and is based on the MPEG-2
                        transport stream. MTS files are often used
                        by Sony, Panasonic, Canon and other HD
                        camcorders. Legal input for Video –
                        MPEG1VIDEO, MPEG2VIDEO, H264; Audio – MP1,
                        MP2, AC3, AC3PLUS, DTS, TRUHD.

                        Note, mp2 and mp1 audio codecs are valid
                        for transport stream itself but not as
                        on-disk format for Blu-Rays.

                        In this case you still can save original
                        video by using ffmpeg's switches

                         -c:v copy -c:a ac3 , while outputting
                        into another temporal ts container.

                        {waiting for Terje's results on pcm_bluray
                        case}


                        ---


                        I think all m2ts files you used for
                        testing were h264/aac (or ac3), not
                        from-camcoder HDVs with mpeg2 video/mp2
                        audio.

                        you can try HDV-in-mov from this folder as
                        ffmpeg test file, I think

                        http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/mov/FCP/


                    oh, this is not mp2 audio but pcm audio. And
                    ..not exactly kind of pcm used on blurays!

                    so this line work, note mpegts_m2ts_mode
                    switch for enabling more bluray like output,
                    without it ffmpeg will mux audio into private
                    stream -  good luck getting it back!

                    ffmpeg -i HDV_1080i50.mov -c:v copy -c:a
                    pcm_bluray -mpegts_m2ts_mode 1 hdv.mts

                    then tsmuxer recognizes mts file as below:

                    ~/tsMuxer $ tsmuxer hdv.mts
                    tsMuxeR version 2.6.16-dev.
                    github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer
                    <http://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer>
                    Track ID:    4113  Stream type: MPEG-2
                    Stream ID:   V_MPEG-2
                    Stream info: Profile: Main@6. Resolution:
                    1440:1080i. Frame rate: 25
                    Stream lang:

                    Track ID:    4352
                    Stream type: LPCM
                    Stream ID:   A_LPCM
                    Stream info: Bitrate: 1536Kbps Sample Rate:
                    48KHz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16bit
                    Stream lang: eng

                    Duration: 00:00:08.000

                    ====

                    I wonder if you can cp this file few times and
                    then cat them back together for simulating
                    longer video ) ?


                https://github.com/OpenShot/openshot-qt/issues/3428#top

                this one contain real very short hdv sample with
                mp2 sound

                http://twenkid.com/os/3.m2t



                I can try to dig and test further into this matter
                later this month - or possibly more realistic next
                month.
                Currently I spend some holiday weeks on Gran Canaria 😎



            have good times (even without camcoder!)



                Some thoughts in advance:

                Would it possibly be better/clear to differ/split
                between the formats, HDV video on tape (M2T
                container) and the successor H264/AVC(HD) video on
                disk?
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV


            sure, right now it confusing.




                Possibly you still have the probably little longer
                HDV 1080i sample file, "20081103140154.m2t" we used
                for the HDV format patch here
                
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg02048.html



            yeah, will call my friend 'find' )

            thanks!




                And if  Phyllis has access to a Blu-ray disc burner
                and BD hw player, testing could possibly start
                sooner(?)












                        ----

                        For creating a blu-ray disc, if you have
                        HDV MPEG-2 media that is in blu-ray
                        format, you can save the original quality
                        of your work, rather than rendering it to
                        another format.


                        {I hope Terje will let us know if bdwrite
                        still works with bluray pcm audio as
                        produced by ffmpeg 5.1+}


            I forgot one question:
            Will it be possible and how to access and use ffmpeg-5.x
            included with Cin-GG in a terminal as usual?




        if you compile your own cinelerra ffmpeg binary will be in
        thirdparty/ffmpeg-5.1/ffmpeg


        we do not install this binary because cin does all work via
        library interface.

        So I think you can do single-user build and then play with
        compiled binary and may be even use it in shell scripting as
        described in

        
https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Menu_Bar_Shell_Commands.html



            The latest openSUSE Leap 15.4 distro I use, has so far
            no official ffmpeg-5.x package or codec enabled from
            Packman.
            I have add-installed ffmpeg-5.1.2 from OBS (Open Build
            Service), but don't know if it works.



    ===========================


        A first test step with add-installed Experimental
        ffmpeg-5-5.1.2-lp154.35.1.x86_64.rpm for Leap 15.4 from
        
https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=ffmpeg-5&project=multimedia%3Alibs
        
<https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=ffmpeg-5&project=multimedia%3Alibs>
        https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/multimedia%3Alibs/ffmpeg-5

            zypper addrepo
            
https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:libs/15.4/multimedia:libs.repo
            zypper refresh
            zypper install ffmpeg-5

        ----------------

        ffmpeg -i 3.m2t -c:v copy -c:a pcm_bluray output.ts
        ffmpeg version 5.1.2 Copyright (c) 2000-2022 the FFmpeg
        developers
          built with gcc 7 (SUSE Linux)
        -------------
        Input #0, mpegts, from '3.m2t':
          Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 21633 kb/s
          Program 1
            Metadata:
              service_name    : Service01
              service_provider: FFmpeg
          Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0]
        / 0x0002), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3
        DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
            Side data:
              cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size:
        7340032 vbv_delay: N/A
          Stream #0:1[0x101]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003),
        48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s
        Unknown encoder 'pcm_bluray'

        -----------

        Obviously pcm_bluray encoder is not enabled - only the
        decoder is enabled. Then it will be difficult ...

        ffmpeg -codecs -hide_banner | egrep "pcm|pcm_bluray"

         ..AIL. adpcm_4xm            ADPCM 4X Movie
         ..AIL. adpcm_adx            SEGA CRI ADX ADPCM
         ..AIL. adpcm_afc            ADPCM Nintendo Gamecube AFC
         ..AIL. adpcm_agm            ADPCM AmuseGraphics Movie AGM
         ..AIL. adpcm_aica           ADPCM Yamaha AICA
         ..AIL. adpcm_argo           ADPCM Argonaut Games
         ..AIL. adpcm_ct             ADPCM Creative Technology
         ..AIL. adpcm_dtk            ADPCM Nintendo Gamecube DTK
         ..AIL. adpcm_ea             ADPCM Electronic Arts
         ..AIL. adpcm_ea_maxis_xa    ADPCM Electronic Arts Maxis CDROM XA
         ..AIL. adpcm_ea_r1          ADPCM Electronic Arts R1
         ..AIL. adpcm_ea_r2          ADPCM Electronic Arts R2
         ..AIL. adpcm_ea_r3          ADPCM Electronic Arts R3
         ..AIL. adpcm_ea_xas         ADPCM Electronic Arts XAS
         ..AIL. adpcm_g722           G.722 ADPCM
         ..AIL. adpcm_g726           G.726 ADPCM
         ..AIL. adpcm_g726le         G.726 ADPCM little-endian
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_acorn      ADPCM IMA Acorn Replay
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_alp        ADPCM IMA High Voltage Software ALP
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_amv        ADPCM IMA AMV
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_apc        ADPCM IMA CRYO APC
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_apm        ADPCM IMA Ubisoft APM
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_cunning    ADPCM IMA Cunning Developments
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_dat4       ADPCM IMA Eurocom DAT4
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_dk3        ADPCM IMA Duck DK3
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_dk4        ADPCM IMA Duck DK4
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_ea_eacs    ADPCM IMA Electronic Arts EACS
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_ea_sead    ADPCM IMA Electronic Arts SEAD
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_iss        ADPCM IMA Funcom ISS
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_moflex     ADPCM IMA MobiClip MOFLEX
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_mtf        ADPCM IMA Capcom's MT Framework
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_oki        ADPCM IMA Dialogic OKI
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_qt         ADPCM IMA QuickTime
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_rad        ADPCM IMA Radical
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_smjpeg     ADPCM IMA Loki SDL MJPEG
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_ssi        ADPCM IMA Simon & Schuster
        Interactive
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_wav        ADPCM IMA WAV
         ..AIL. adpcm_ima_ws         ADPCM IMA Westwood
         ..AIL. adpcm_ms             ADPCM Microsoft
         ..AIL. adpcm_mtaf           ADPCM MTAF
         ..AIL. adpcm_psx            ADPCM Playstation
         ..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_2        ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 2-bit
         ..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_3        ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 2.6-bit
         ..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_4        ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 4-bit
         ..AIL. adpcm_swf            ADPCM Shockwave Flash
         ..AIL. adpcm_thp            ADPCM Nintendo THP
         ..AIL. adpcm_thp_le         ADPCM Nintendo THP (Little-Endian)
         ..AIL. adpcm_vima           LucasArts VIMA audio
         ..AIL. adpcm_xa             ADPCM CDROM XA
         ..AIL. adpcm_yamaha         ADPCM Yamaha
         ..AIL. adpcm_zork           ADPCM Zork
         ..AIL. derf_dpcm            DPCM Xilam DERF
         ..AIL. gremlin_dpcm         DPCM Gremlin
         ..AIL. interplay_dpcm       DPCM Interplay
         DEAIL. pcm_alaw             PCM A-law / G.711 A-law
         D.AI.S pcm_bluray           PCM signed 16|20|24-bit
        big-endian for Blu-ray media
         D.AI.S pcm_dvd              PCM signed 20|24-bit big-endian
         ..AI.S pcm_f16le            PCM 16.8 floating point
        little-endian
         ..AI.S pcm_f24le            PCM 24.0 floating point
        little-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_f32be            PCM 32-bit floating point big-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_f32le            PCM 32-bit floating point
        little-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_f64be            PCM 64-bit floating point big-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_f64le            PCM 64-bit floating point
        little-endian
         ..AI.S pcm_lxf              PCM signed 20-bit little-endian
        planar
         DEAIL. pcm_mulaw            PCM mu-law / G.711 mu-law
         DEAI.S pcm_s16be            PCM signed 16-bit big-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_s16be_planar     PCM signed 16-bit big-endian planar
         DEAI.S pcm_s16le            PCM signed 16-bit little-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_s16le_planar     PCM signed 16-bit little-endian
        planar
         DEAI.S pcm_s24be            PCM signed 24-bit big-endian
         ..AI.S pcm_s24daud          PCM D-Cinema audio signed 24-bit
         DEAI.S pcm_s24le            PCM signed 24-bit little-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_s24le_planar     PCM signed 24-bit little-endian
        planar
         DEAI.S pcm_s32be            PCM signed 32-bit big-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_s32le            PCM signed 32-bit little-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_s32le_planar     PCM signed 32-bit little-endian
        planar
         ..AI.S pcm_s64be            PCM signed 64-bit big-endian
         ..AI.S pcm_s64le            PCM signed 64-bit little-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_s8               PCM signed 8-bit
         DEAI.S pcm_s8_planar        PCM signed 8-bit planar
         ..AI.S pcm_sga              PCM SGA
         DEAI.S pcm_u16be            PCM unsigned 16-bit big-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_u16le            PCM unsigned 16-bit little-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_u24be            PCM unsigned 24-bit big-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_u24le            PCM unsigned 24-bit little-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_u32be            PCM unsigned 32-bit big-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_u32le            PCM unsigned 32-bit little-endian
         DEAI.S pcm_u8               PCM unsigned 8-bit
         ..AIL. pcm_vidc             PCM Archimedes VIDC
         ..AIL. roq_dpcm             DPCM id RoQ
         ..AIL. sdx2_dpcm            DPCM Squareroot-Delta-Exact
         ..AIL. sol_dpcm             DPCM Sol
         ..AIL. xan_dpcm             DPCM Xan


    for me it says

    DEAI.S pcm_bluray           PCM signed 16|20|24-bit big-endian
    for Blu-ray media


    on termux. Guess suse people a bit afraid about enabling anything
    bluray related in widely-distributed packages. Just for checking
    you can ask  package maintainer, may be he (?) disabled it by
    oversight.

    So yeah, for this test self-compiled ffmpeg will be more
    interesting (on x86/glibc system simple configure/make should
    give you ff* binaries)




    ======================


    I upgraded instead my rolling openSUSE Tumbleweed with the recent
    multimedia codec enabled ffmpeg 5.1.2 from Packman
    https://opensuse.github.io/openSUSE-docs-revamped-temp/codecs/

    where also the pcm_bluray encoder is enabled:

    ffmpeg -codecs -hide_banner | grep pcm_bluray
     DEAI.S pcm_bluray           PCM signed 16|20|24-bit big-endian
    for Blu-ray media


    and verified first the input file

     ffprobe -hide_banner 3.m2t
    Input #0, mpegts, from '3.m2t':
      Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 21633 kb/s
      Program 1
        Metadata:
          service_name    : Service01
          service_provider: FFmpeg
      Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] /
    0x0002), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR
    16:9], 25000 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
        Side data:
          cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
    vbv_delay: N/A
      Stream #0:1[0x101]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000
    Hz, stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s


    Then a new attempt with the first step to transcode the mp2 audio
    to pcm_blu-ray.
    Added also for this case the "-mpegts_m2ts_mode 1" switch for
    enabling more bluray like output, because without it didn't seem
    to be recognized!?


    ffmpeg -i 3.m2t -c:v copy -c:a pcm_bluray -mpegts_m2ts_mode 1
    output.mts
    ffmpeg version 5.1.2 Copyright (c) 2000-2022 the FFmpeg developers
      built with gcc 12 (SUSE Linux)
    ..........
    Input #0, mpegts, from '3.m2t':
      Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 21633 kb/s
      Program 1
        Metadata:
          service_name    : Service01
          service_provider: FFmpeg
      Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] /
    0x0002), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR
    16:9], 25000 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
        Side data:
          cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
    vbv_delay: N/A
      Stream #0:1[0x101]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000
    Hz, stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s
    Stream mapping:
      Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (copy)
      Stream #0:1 -> #0:1 (mp2 (native) -> pcm_bluray (native))
    Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
    Output #0, mpegts, to 'output.mts':
      Metadata:
        encoder         : Lavf59.27.100
      Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
    yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9],
    q=2-31, 25000 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
        Side data:
          cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
    vbv_delay: N/A
      Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_bluray, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
        Metadata:
          encoder         : Lavc59.37.100 pcm_bluray
    frame=   76 fps=0.0 q=-1.0 Lsize=    8898kB time=00:00:03.00
    bitrate=24297.5kbits/s speed= 139x
    video:7854kB audio:565kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global
    headers:0kB muxing overhead: 5.697285%

    ---------------------

    At last verified the output file:

    ffprobe -hide_banner output.ts
    Input #0, mpegts, from 'output.ts':


above you output in mts not ts .... ?



=======================

It looks to be copy-error from my note. To be sure I  repete it below for ffprobe and additional mediainfo. (I also had "output.ts" from the attempt without the mode switch.) Not sure if TS and MTS by the way can be used interchangeable, both are MPEG-transport streams, possibly TS is for MPEG-2 and MTS for H264/AVC only?
My HDV files on disk get .M2T extension when transfered from tape.


ffprobe -hide_banner output.mts
Input #0, mpegts, from 'output.mts':
  Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 23490 kb/s
  Program 1
    Metadata:
      service_name    : Service01
      service_provider: FFmpeg
  Stream #0:0[0x1011]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
    Side data:
      cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032 vbv_delay: N/A   Stream #0:1[0x1100]: Audio: pcm_bluray ([128][0][0][0] / 0x0080), 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s


------------------------

mediainfo output.mts
General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : output.mts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 8.69 MiB
Duration                                 : 2 s 502 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 28.1 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Commercial name                          : HDV 1080i
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : Main@High 1440
Format settings                          : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15
Format settings, picture structure       : Frame
Codec ID                                 : 2
Duration                                 : 2 s 536 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 25.5 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 25.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 440 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.546
Stream size                              : 7.69 MiB (89%)
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Big / Signed
Muxing mode                              : Blu-ray
Codec ID                                 : 128
Duration                                 : 2 s 995 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Delay relative to video                  : -567 ms
Stream size                              : 562 KiB (6%)

Menu
ID                                       : 256 (0x100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MPEG Video / PCM
Duration                                 : 2 s 502 ms
List                                     : 4113 (0x1011) (MPEG Video) / 4352 (0x1100) (PCM)
Service name                             : Service01
Service provider                         : FFmpeg
Service type                             : digital television


================



    Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 22791 kb/s
      Program 1
        Metadata:
          service_name    : Service01
          service_provider: FFmpeg
      Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] /
    0x0002), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR
    16:9], 25000 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
        Side data:
          cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
    vbv_delay: N/A
      Stream #0:1[0x101]: Data: bin_data ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006)
    Unsupported codec with id 98314 for input stream 1

    ==========================

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