They were mad because they were NOT on the list; and they were mad because
someone else WAS and they did not think they should be.
Adam Williams name is all over the place and that is what is the most
important.
- FFmpeg is such a HUGE part of CinGG now that how could we ever list those
Authors?  and honestly that is the main reason CinGG is functioning so well.
- And what about the Authors of the LV2 Calf plugins? and all of the
libraries being used?


On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 11:18 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <
randrianas...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> пн, 2 янв. 2023 г., 21:13 Phyllis Smith <phylsmith2...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Although it would be nice to have, it is just too hard to get correct,
>> difficult to maintain, and *leads to people getting mad*.
>>
>
> Were they mad because their name was on list or because it was absent?
> Today development slowed much, so may be we have time to sort this out
> without panicking .....
>
>
> This is what has happened in the past and why it was eliminated.  But
>> maybe in the future if another full time developer starts working on all of
>> the Bug Tracker issues, this can be changed.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 10:48 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <
>> randrianas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Because cinelerra-gg is merge of cin hv, cin-cv, various recent
>>> contributors on this list  and Bill's own work I thought having AUTHORS
>>> file in sorce tree root will be good idea.
>>>
>>> Right now Cin-CV AUTHORS look like this (some emails outdated)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hv=Adam Williams <broadc...@earthling.net>
>>> j6t=Johannes Sixt <johannes.s...@telecom.at>
>>> minmax=Andraz Tori <andraz.to...@guest.arnes.si>     herman=Herman
>>> Robak <her...@skolelinux.no>
>>> baver=Richard Baverstock <ba...@thebeever.com>
>>> einar=Einar Runkaru <eina...@smail.ee>
>>> pere=Petter Reinholdtsen <p...@hungry.com>
>>> tfheen=Tollef Fog Heen <tol...@add.no>
>>> andreask=Andreas Kielb <andreaski...@web.de>
>>> theraz=Tyler Geddes <tged...@wgeddes.com>
>>> dyce=Gergely Erdelyi <d...@rovidzar.hu>
>>> dreamlx=David Arendt <ad...@prnet.org>
>>> ga=Gustavo Iniguez <g...@kutxa.homeunix.org>
>>> memenk=Michael Eric Menk <mek...@osys.grm.hia.no>
>>> benjif=Benjamin Flaming <cinele...@solobanjo.com>
>>> cobra=Kevin Brosius <co...@compuserve.com>
>>> taraba=Mark Taraba <m_tar...@yahoo.com>
>>> nate=Nathan Kurz <n...@verse.com>
>>> mammique=Camille Harang <mammi...@garbure.org>
>>>                       kbielefe=Karl Bielefeldt <uhauuf...@sneakemail.com
>>> >
>>> alexf=Alex Ferrer <a...@ftconsult.com>
>>> pmdumuid=Pierre Dumuid <pierre.dum...@adelaide.edu.au>
>>> giskard=Riccardo Setti <gisk...@autistici.org>
>>> jstewart=Joe Stewart <jstew...@lurhq.com>
>>> doudou=Sylvain Joyeux <dou...@melix.net>
>>> rafael2k=Rafael Diniz <raf...@riseup.net>
>>> nicolasm=Nicolas Maufrais <e.co...@gmx.net>
>>> raffa=Raffaella Traniello <raffaella.tranie...@livecom.it>
>>> feranick=Nicola Ferralis <feran...@hotmail.com>
>>> akirad=Paolo Rampino <tuttoainter...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> All in all 30 authors
>>>
>>> Cin-CV did a lot of bugfixing, build system , internationalization work,
>>> some plugin work. Also IIRC ffmpeg support appeared in some branch of cv
>>> "fork" while may be Adam and Bill come up with similar file on their own?
>>>
>>> cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/ffmpeg.C
>>>
>>> contain no attribution ... guess we should track this down in history
>>> and fix
>>>
>>>
>>> CinHV aboutperfs.C contain this list (Myself only send literally  few
>>> oneliners, but I guess my work on cingg merges into it)
>>>
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Richard Baverstock"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Karl Bielefeldt"));
>>>                            credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Kevin
>>> Brosius"));
>>>  credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Jean-Luc Coulon"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Jerome Cornet"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Pierre Marc Dumuid"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Nicola Ferralis"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Alex Ferrer"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Gustavo I<C3><B1>iguez"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Tefan de Konink"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Nathan Kurz"));    credits.append(new
>>> BC_ListBoxItem("Greg Mekkes"))
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Jean-Michel Poure"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Monty Montgomery"));
>>>                           credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Bill Morrow"));
>>> #ifdef X_HAVE_UTF8_STRING
>>>  credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Einar R<C3><BC>nkaru"));
>>> #else
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Einar R\374nkaru"));
>>> #endif
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Paolo Rampino"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Andrew Randrianasulu"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Petter Reinholdtsen"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Eric Seigne"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Johannes Sixt"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Joe Stewart"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Dan Streetman"));
>>>                           credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Mark Taraba"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Andraz Tori"));
>>> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Jonas Wulff"));
>>>
>>> 25 authors. (with overlap)
>>>
>>> Tefan de Konik looks like typo? Stefan, may be?
>>> https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2022-January/004602.html
>>>
>>> I think for cingg specifically  we should add Bill, Sergey at very least
>>> and Andrea, Phyllis, Terje, IgorB, and other *testers* because without your
>>> work we newer had chance to move anywhere near  our current state.
>>>
>>> (i guess we should say list is incomplete in first edition, because
>>> fishing out  all contributor's names out of mail list archive will take
>>> time)
>>>
>>>
>>> I think we can go with second form of list, without emails? Usually
>>> email is useful if someone want to ask few questions, but because someone
>>> contribute to various cinelerra branches does not mean they are still on it
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> So I guess leaving remark about incompleteness and links to current
>>> email archive is best we can do?
>>>
>>>
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