Matt,
If DVD is your final goal, I've also written up instructions on what
works for me:
http://content.serveftp.net/video/renderTest/guideToCinExport.html

good luck,
scott

On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 06:57 -0500, Matt Pfingsten wrote:
> Unfortunately, that requires recompression. I'm trying to export to a
> Quicktime DV (or directly to MPEG2 so I can mplex it and burn it to
> DVD, but that doesn't work either). The problem that I am having is
> that I have various clips that all claim to be Quicktime's ocompressed
> with the DVC codec but each one is somehow how different. 
> 
> However, when I go to export the video for Internet playback, I will
> definately find your table to be most helpful. Thanks.
> 
> On 10/8/06, Scott C. Frase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>         Matt, 
>         I started creating a doc on QT compatibility by exporting
>         video from
>         Cinelerra using different compression schemes with the QT
>         container
>         format:
>         http://content.serveftp.net/video/qtcompatibility.ods.html
>         http://content.serveftp.net/video/qtcompatibility.ods (Open
>         Office Calc)
>         
>         For now, I've found MPEG4/JPEG photo compression schemes most
>         compatible 
>         among the major media players.  Note that I've used twos
>         complement as
>         my audio stream.  You'll probably get even better results from
>         MP3/4,
>         but I just haven't had time to test these.
>         
>         hope this helps,
>         scott
>         
>         On Sat, 2006-10-07 at 22:43 -0500, Matt Pfingsten wrote:
>         > A while back I was having issues importing QuickTime DV
>         files that had
>         > been captured on a Mac with Final Cut Pro. I learned that,
>         apparently, 
>         > in spite of the fact that Cinelerra both claimed they were
>         compressed
>         > with the DV codec and were quicktime files, someohow the FCP
>         quicktime
>         > was different. Cinelerra, for whatever reason, wouldn't read
>         all of 
>         > the frames. Playback appeared choppy, but even when
>         advancing a frame
>         > at a time only evey fourth of fith frame would actually
>         display. I
>         > figured that Apple, being the creators of Quicktime, had
>         done 
>         > something different to their Quicktimes that the Linux
>         efforts hadn't
>         > caught up to just yet. MPlayer/MEncoder could read it fine,
>         so I
>         > managed to export it to an AVI DV, although Cinelerra proved
>         unable to 
>         > play anything pass the first GB of data.
>         >
>         > Well, in the last few days I've learned more. It's not just
>         FCP that
>         > creates "different" DV compressed Quicktimes. There appear
>         to be many 
>         > different DV Quicktimes, each claiming to be the same thing
>         but
>         > obviously different in some way. Here is a comparison
>         between three
>         > different clips:
>         >
>         > 1) A file called fhmp_footage.mov. This first file is some
>         footage 
>         > captured in Final Cut Pro.
>         > -In Cinelerra, playback is choppy and only every fourth or
>         fifth frame
>         > is displayed.
>         > -In MPlayer it plays fine. "mplayer -identify
>         fhmp_footage.mov" yields 
>         > this: (relevant portions only): ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=dvc, and
>         later
>         > ID_VIDEO_CODEC=qdv
>         > -FFMpeg cannot play it, complaining "could not open codecs."
>         >
>         > 2) A file called 16A-1.mov. This is a clip I shot two weeks
>         ago and 
>         > captured using dvgrab.
>         > -Cinelerra plays it back fine. No issues.
>         > -In MPlayer it plays fine. "mplayer -identify 16A-1.mov"
>         yields this:
>         > (relevant portions only): ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=dvc, and later 
>         > ID_VIDEO_CODEC=qdv
>         > -FFMpeg can play it. "ffmpeg -i 16A-1.mov" identifies the
>         video as
>         > dvvideo. FFPlay plays it fine.
>         >
>         > 3) A file called titles_end.mov. This clip was created in
>         Cinelerra 
>         > from a bunch of PNG files. It is a one minute title
>         sequence.
>         > -Cinelerra can play it back fine. No issues.
>         > -MPlayer/MEncoder have no problems. "mplayer -identify
>         titles_end.mov"
>         > yields this: (relevant portions only): ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=dvc,
>         and later 
>         > ID_VIDEO_CODEC=qdv
>         > -FFMpeg can't play it, complaining "could not open codecs."
>         >
>         > Cinelerra identifies all three as DV Codec compressed
>         Quicktimes. It
>         > should also be noted that Kino 0.9.1 can't open any of these
>         files
>         > without complaining that the file isn't a DV file and
>         wanting to
>         > import it via MEncoder. Kino 0.7.6 can open all of these
>         files,
>         > although it takes about five minutes to open the first file 
>         > (fhmp_footage.mov) probably because it is 13 GB.
>         >
>         > At the present time this is preventing me from burning my
>         dailies or
>         > cuts to DVD which I could like to do before Tuesday. The
>         biggest issue 
>         > is why Cinelerra is exporting Quicktimes that can't be read
>         by
>         > others.
>         >
>         > I remember reading something in the archives about dvc, dvsd
>         and
>         > multiple headers or something being written into one file.
>         Of course, 
>         > two hours of searching has failed to produce this message
>         now that I
>         > needed it.
>         >
>         > Anyone have any idea what is going on? What's different
>         about these
>         > files? Why are they called the same thing? How can I fix
>         them. Most 
>         > important of all, how can I export a DV Quicktime out of
>         Cinelerra
>         > that will work in something besides Cinelerra and MPlayer?
>         >
>         > --
>         > Matt Pfingsten
>         > www.GotWookiee.com
>         
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> Matt Pfingsten
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