Cisco Works will definitely be cheaper than SMARTS solution.

Another option to look at is EM7 from ScienceLogic http://www.sciencelogic.com/ There appliances have a start price of $ 25K.

- Gaurav
on 08/22/2008 05:08 AM Rubens Kuhl Jr. said the following:
Smarts is what used to be BMC Patrol or something else ?

How it compares price-wise to Cisco Works ?


Rubens


On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:39 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

Then you want a see this:
http://www.emc.com/products/family/smarts-family.htm

Smart is a monitoring tools with corolation engine. If you router crashes, you 
will know about, and you will also know what's behind that router that you just 
lost and then gives you the impact. It can go up to servers.

- dan

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregori Parker
Sent: August 21, 2008 1:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [c-nsp] best fault management solutions?

I've had it with Ciscoworks.

I'm not new to getting LMS working properly, I'm just tired of lowering my 
expectations.  Device discovery is hit and miss, new versions seem 
progressively worse, and the whole product is about as ergonomic as a pile of 
broken glass.  I've stripped it down to just common services and DFM, but there 
just isn't enough value there relative to resources.

So, I'm looking for DFM-like replacement recommendations - I currently have 
configuration and performance management covered by rancid, cacti, syslog-ng 
and a few other open source tools; and I have netflow taken care of - I'm just 
having trouble finding a good solution for device fault management (i.e. temp, 
fan, interface errors, queues, broadcast rate, bgp neighbor state changes, etc) 
for a mostly-Cisco environment.
I need something with a little bit of intelligence, not just a simple trap 
forwarder.  Have already evaluated Orion, but it has too many extras that I 
don't need (i.e. netflow, traffic graphs, configs, et al are already handled) 
and not enough of what I do need (device awareness, alerting).  Not concerned 
with cost and platform, thanks in advance.

- Gregori

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