We've got about a half-dozen sites deployed on this, with about 1000 user base total, and it's running most fine, caveats: * watch out for VTP as thiere may be some out of order packets that causes VTP convergence to fail; run the CE side in vtp transparent mode and add vlan manually * another trick we've been think about is adjusting MTU on the end workstations * mtu 1472 works fine as defrag/frag will happen on the pe/ce equipment; no worries with running high cpu on end-workstation due to frag/defrag operations
* "clear ip tra" & "sh ip tra" will show frag stat on routers

hope this helps.

Regards,
Ge Moua | Email: [email protected]

Network Design Engineer
University of Minnesota | Networking & Telecommunications Services



Paul Stewart wrote:
Thanks - yes, absolutely and I can figure that into the equation.  Been
reading a lot of discussions in archives and Google about this.  I want to
ensure that however/where we deploy this that we can provide a full 1500 MTU
*without* having desktops make MTU adjustments basically.... at the expense
of fragmentation and CPU (which we can account for).  No matter what I've
tried so far I can't get a ping through our pair of test routers larger than
1472 though yet....

This avoids websites being unreachable (Microsoft comes to mind) and other
MTU annoyances we've encountered over time...

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: Ge Moua [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:50 AM
To: Paul Stewart
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] l2tpv3 config - MTU question

I was tackling a similar issue over here too, I think it may have to do with the fact that l2tpv3 and ethernet headers are taking some of the mtu allocation.

Regards,
Ge Moua | Email: [email protected]

Network Design Engineer
University of Minnesota | Networking & Telecommunications Services



Paul Stewart wrote:
Hi folks.

I've setup a pair of 1841's back to back for testing l2tpv3 deployment for
a
client..

FastE0/0 from each 1841 is connected to one another at 10.0.0.0/24 - each
router has a loopback of 192.168.254.1 and .2  - OSPF is running and am
able
to successfully ping each other's loopback with redistributed subnets
etc..
Configured each router to look like this:

pseudowire-class test

 encapsulation l2tpv3

 sequencing both

 ip local interface Loopback0

interface FastEthernet0/0

 ip address 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0

 duplex auto

 speed auto

interface FastEthernet0/1

 no ip address

 duplex auto

 speed auto

 no cdp enable

 xconnect 192.168.254.2 1234 pw-class test

Have a notebook hooked up to each FastE0/1 port and assigned 172.16.0.1
and
.2 on them.  I can ping back and forth proving connectivity etc.

My problem/question is how to get a packet of 1500 bytes to transverse the
link - obviously fragmented but that's ok.    In the real-world deployment
of this setup we are limited to 1500 MTU in most situations and will
presume
no mini-jumbo support anywhere (from a config perspective at least).

In my first config I had Path MTU discovery enabled and could only ping up
to 1440 bytes.  With that disabled I can now ping to 1472 but not beyond.

With Path MTU turned on it looked like this:

site2#sh l2tun session all

%No active L2F tunnels

L2TP Session Information Total tunnels 1 sessions 1

Session id 53211 is up, tunnel id 32076

Call serial number is 1293300000

Remote tunnel name is site1

  Internet address is 192.168.254.1

  Session is L2TP signalled

  Session state is established, time since change 00:26:44

    114 Packets sent, 116 received

    30446 Bytes sent, 29032 received

  Last clearing of "show vpdn" counters never

    Receive packets dropped:

      out-of-order:             0

      total:                    0

    Send packets dropped:

      exceeded session MTU:     1

      total:                    1

  Session vcid is 1234

  Session Layer 2 circuit, type is Ethernet, name is FastEthernet0/1

  Circuit state is UP

    Remote session id is 22201, remote tunnel id 12358

  Session PMTU enabled, path MTU is 1500 bytes

  DF bit on, ToS reflect disabled, ToS value 0, TTL value 255

  No session cookie information available

  UDP checksums are disabled

  SSS switching enabled

  Sequencing is on

    Ns 114, Nr 116, 0 out of order packets received

  Unique ID is 1

%No active PPTP tunnels

Upon looking further I could see the DF bit on which I believe would
explain
the 1440 byte limit I hit.  But with that disabled I am puzzled or missing
something as to why I cannot fragment packets up to full 1500?   What I am
missing here?  Do I need to make MTU adjustments towards the FastE0/1
interface to force fragmentation before the l2tpv3 tunnel?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

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