HI Rick, Unfortunately you are limited to the vendor's portfolio, both giants (Cisco and Juniper ) has similar portfolios. Cisco ASR1002/4/6 and Juniper M71/M10 will provide you with multi-gig bandwidth, if they do not meet your budget or it's beyond your bandwidth needs you will fall back to a processing based routers like 7200 where there is no Control/Forwarding planes separation and it is running monolithic IOS.
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Rick Ernst <c...@shreddedmail.com> wrote: > It looks like I need to look closer at the modular boxes. "ASR" was the > answer I kept seeing for the role, but the forwarding capacity of the > 1002/4/6 (more specifically the ESP 5/10/20) was well beyond what I needed. > > As a note, my network design does not have a capacity increase needed for > the role these boxes are in. They are essentially the peering/link > end-point for GigE upstream. By the time we grow to 10GE (rather than > additional GigE) links, we'll probably be on IPv7 and need new hardware > anyway. :) > > > Thanks, > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Arie Vayner (avayner) <avay...@cisco.com > >wrote: > > > Rick, > > > > As the ASR1K is a hardware based platform the route scale limitation > > does not only come from the amount of RAM it has, but also from the > > capacity of the ESP (forwarding plane). > > > > If you are looking at sparing/redundancy, take a 2nd look at the > > ASR1006... Or maybe just the ASR1004. The advantage of the modular > > models is that as you need more forwarding plane capacity, you can > > upgrade the RP/ESP modules, and gain dramatic performance boost. > > > > You can find the details here: > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps9343/data_sheet_c78 > > -450070.html< > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps9343/data_sheet_c78%0A-450070.html > > > > > > (For the 1002F, we use ESP2.5, which has, in general, 50% of the > > capacity of a ESP5, hence the 500K IPv4 routes) > > > > Arie > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net > > [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Rick Ernst > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 14:49 > > To: Mounir Mohamed Ali > > Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1002-F BGP table size > > > > Ah. So I did remember the 500K IPv4 limit. :( Where did you find the > > docs > > with the 500K limit. > > > > Since it has 1GB RAM, the route limitation must be "somewhere else"? > > > > I'll need to see how the 1002 (non-F) works out. Maybe sparing RP/ESP > > will > > work out better than having a full spare chassis. Any other platform to > > fill this role? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Mounir Mohamed Ali < > > mounirmoham...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Rick, > > > > > > Here is a quick comparison. > > > > > > The Cisco ASR 1002-F has RP1 with 1G RAM, ESP 2.5 with 1G RAM (2.5Gbps > > > bandwidth), SIP-10, 1SPA, and 4 GE ports built in chassis, running > > IOS-XE > > > and has SW redundancy via VM, capcable to have 500K IPv4 and 125K Ipv6 > > > > > > The Cisco ASR1002 has 1 RP1 integrated in the chassis comes with 4GB > > RAM by > > > default, 1 ESP slot for ESP5/10 to provide 5Gbps/10Gbps bandwidth, it > > also > > > has 4-built in GE-ports, 3 SPA ports, running IOS XE and has SW > > redundancy > > > via VM. > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Rick Ernst <c...@shreddedmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I'm having a hard (impossible) time locating performance and BGP > > specs for > > >> the ASR 1002-F. Since it has a "not really an ESP" built-in, the > > >> ESP5/10/20 > > >> specs aren't helping me a lot. Other than it should have ~2.5Gbs > > >> forwarding > > >> (full-duplex?), I'can't find anything definitive on it. References > > keep > > >> coming up with the ASR-1002 with the removable ESP. > > >> > > >> I'm looking at replacing our upstream routers (7206-VXR/G1) on GigE > > links > > >> with something that can better handle D/DoS attacks. The original > > thought > > >> was to use a small 6500/Sup720. Empirical testing shows that Netflow > > >> (even > > >> with the table size under control) really beats up on the SP CPU. > > The > > >> ASR-1002F seems like it should fit the bill, but I found something > > (that > > >> I've now lost) that mentioned 500K routes. > > >> > > >> I'm looking for a device that: > > >> - is a "lightbulb"; relatively inexpensive, single-upstream > > >> - 3 GigE ports > > >> - 1 Gbs full-duplex (2Gbs total) hardware forwarding > > >> - uRPF > > >> - Netflow > > >> - 1,000,000+ IPv4 BGP routes > > >> - IPv6 support > > >> > > >> As an additional comment on the Sup720/Netflow, CPU on the SP hit > > ~30% > > >> with > > >> only a couple hundred Mbs and roughly 50% TCAM utilization. > > >> > > >> Is the ASR-1002F what I'm looking for? Can anybody direct me to 1002F > > (vs > > >> modular 1002) specs? > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp > > >> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mounir Mohamed, CCIE No.19573(R&S, SP) > > > Senior Network Engineer, Core Team > > > NOOR Data Networks, SAE > > > http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp > > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ > > > _______________________________________________ > cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ > -- Mounir Mohamed, CCIE No.19573(R&S, SP) Senior Network Engineer, Core Team NOOR Data Networks, SAE http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/