On 11/26/12 1:25 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
On 26/11/2012 17:57, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
PA-FE and IO-FE does afaik, only support 100 meg (not 10 meg) and only half
and full duplex, not autoneg.
i could never understand this.  the pa-fe and the io-fe both used DEC tulip
chips, which were perfectly capable of 10/100, hd/fd.  obviously Cisco
deliberately didn't support this in software, but it was never clear why.

Probably because some (most?) revisions of the Tulip had buggy/broken auto-negotiation logic. They're probably the source of most the early hardcoding-speed-and-duplex bad practices. The combo of Tulip to 2924XL was particularly awful in my experience and pretty much required hardcoding speed/duplex on servers and switches...

They were bad enough that I've seen PCI Tulip NICs in the wild (I think SMC made them) that had two RJ45 ports, one for 10 meg and one for 100 meg. I suspect the PA-FE-TX took that approach.

DEC made some nice things in their heyday, but the Tulip chip was reeeeeeallly not one of them...

I think the PA-2FE-TX has Intel NIC chips.

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