The input queue is the software side of things.
Things that are handled in hardware should be on the no buffer line.
Why are you getting so much software bound traffic?
Things that are getting dropped due to output queueing are going to show as 
output drops.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/switches/catalyst-3750-series-switches/116089-technote-switches-output-drops-qos-00.html

Another place they will show up is the QoS command: sh mls qos interface 
<interface id> statistics

On these model switches things tend to get dropped due to lack of buffers or 
output dropped.
If you are having input queue drops it is usually due to things getting sent to 
software.
Usual suspects are multicast traffic, broadcasts, or routing protocols.
You can also get direct attacks against the switch if it is operating in routed 
mode.

And in that situation upgrading the switch isn't going to solve the problem.
If it is actually traffic based considering upgrading to a 4948E.
It is a much more capable switch.

Mack McBride | Network Architect | ViaWest, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Adam 
Greene
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:17 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] 3850?

Hi all,



We're looking to upgrade some old 3750's and 3750G's whose input queues don't 
seem to be able to pass 75Mbps without choking:



(on a 3750G)

Last clearing of "show interface" counters 21w5d

Input queue: 1/75/5870052/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops:
0).



We need the switches to support:

-          basic QoS policies (mainly, VoIP and routing protocol
prioritization)

-          Flexible NetFlow with NBAR

-          125Mbps aggregate throughput via any given interface now, and
more in the future. If I had to guess, 450Mbps aggregate within 3 years

-          OSPF & BGP



We don't anticipate stacking these.



We're considering:

-          WS-C3850-24T-E (modular)

-          WS-C3650-24TD-E (fixed; 2x10G uplinks)

-          WS-C3650-24TS-E (fixed; 4x1G uplinks)

-          WS-C3560X-24T-E (modular)



I like the idea of the switch being modular, in case we want to put in 10G 
modules later on, but realistically, can any of these switches even push 1Gbps 
reliably? After seeing "gigabit" 3750s balk at such low traffic levels, I 
wonder how much we can really expect any of these switches to push.



Of all the options, the WS-C3850-24T-E seems the most flexible and probably 
most powerful. I was feeling enthusiastic about the 3560X until someone told me 
that Flexible NetFlow is supported, but only if you buy the 10G module, which 
costs as much as the switch itself.



Do you think we're on the right track? Is the WS-C3850-24T-E probably the best 
fit? How much traffic have you all seen it push in the real world?



Thanks for sharing your experience.



Adam





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