Hi Peter,

The Semiconductor Optical Amplifiers - "SOA"s can be designed to work around 
1310nm. The nice thing is they should amplify all 4 lanes of an LR4 together. 
An SOA on the Receive side can be the difference between an LR4 optical module 
and an ER4 optical module. The ER4s are rated for 40km, though I'd imagine 50km 
would be achievable if you have good fibre, not too many patches and clean 
connectors.

My ideal product - which I've yet to see packaged this way - would be an 
in-line connector SOA - much like an attenuator - It would have a micro-usb 
connector on the side to power it, and possibly return some power level 
measurements over the USB interface if connected to an intelligent host. But 
alas, I have yet to see such a product! - maybe I'm dreaming! The modules are 
not yet that small - you can get them packaged in a 1RU rack mount! eg.
https://www.oequest.com/getproduct/18126/cat/0/page/1

If the gear you're looking to extend the range on has CFP interfaces, I'd 
seriously look at ER4 or ZR modules which are just becoming available. There 
are also DWDM coherent CFPs which have an 80km range without amplification. For 
example:
https://www.flexoptix.net/en/produkte/transceiver/cfp-coherent-tunable-dwdm-zr-transceiver-100-gigabit-sm-c-band-80km-22db-ddm-dom.html
Even if your Cisco device doesn't support this type of Optic, Flexoptix can 
allow you to program it so that it looks like a module Cisco do support!  These 
types of modules should be readily available within 6 months.

I've seen product announcements for up to 80km range even in a QSFP28 package, 
but no product yet eg:
https://www.inphi.com/media-center/press-room/press-releases-and-media-alerts/inphi-debuts-100g-dwdm-solution-for-80km-data-center-interconnects.php
This may need a dispersion compensation solution which the coherent ones will 
not.

I'm expecting a lot more product options in this space within the next 12 
months.  I'll be interested to hear what solution you choose!

Regards

Tim.

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Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 9:39 PM
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Subject: [c-nsp] Optical amplification 1310nm

Hey,

We are looking for amplifying 40/100G connections for longer distances than
the 25km distance Cisco have on their products.

Do you guys have any suggestion of some alternative to EDFA/Amplification
that works on 1290->1330nm optics, that is not around 30k+ USD per lane?
The distance that is interested is up to 40-50km

Have a great day!

Peter
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