Well, a bunch of vendors now sell optics that do not require the secret command 
on IOS to ignore the non cisco coding.

  I guess buy a few – the 10g SR’s are about $16 -

However, we got burned in 2015 when a client with non cisco parts using the 
“service unsupported-transceiver” would NOT be supported by TAC.

If you can get a third party optic to work without the command – are they 
supported by TAC?  It is a grey area for sure.


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Thanks Nick - So they sell competing Optics? i.e They have a "cisco-avago" 
SFP-10G-AOC and "cisco" SFP-10G-AOC?    -  The cisco-avago being cheap, and 
cisco being 000's? (They couldnt(wouldnt) be doing this?) - lol, No one in 
there right mind would purchase the "cisco" optics ever again?



Cheers

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No, they still rip you off big time.
Just got quoted on a 10g SFP+ singlemode SFP for roughly 70 times more 
expensive than the equivalent component in fiberstore.
I gave the client the option for both -

$40

$2,847.76

And they went with the genuine cisco part, because of our scary disclaimer 
about TAC.

Imagine they needed 10 of these - that’s $400 vs 28,0000.

Do you chaps just keep a couple of "genuine parts" lying around to quickly 
shove in if you need TAC assistance for a bug?

No one in their right mind can be buying a lot of "genuine" optics in 2017?

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Thanks - Yes I realize Cisco dont manufacture their own optics (They use 
finisar etc), but all "genuine" Cisco optics Ive seen previously have never had 
the manufacturers name in bold writing on the optic? (Havent purchased genuine 
Cisco optics for a long time - Probably the reason why 😊)


They still sell "cisco" only branded optics for 10 times the price of others?  
Or do they now sell (only) these cheaper co-branded ones to compete?

Thanks

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On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:05:10AM +0000, CiscoNSP List wrote:
> Are the cisco-avago, cisco-finisar "genuine" Cisco optics? i.e TAC
> will provide support if you are using them? Ours were purchased
> through a Cisco disty (As a Cisco part)....We are hitting multiple
> issues with them (10G Optic will not initialize in ASR920, 100G give
> no light/power readings in NCS5500)

Cisco OEMs optics from everybody under the sun. If you can show that you bought 
them as Cisco parts, then TAC should be fine dealing with them.
They do use Avago/Finisar parts frequently, and they are labelled as you see 
them.

All hardware is finicky dealing with optics at some point in time. They may 
need to send you another "brand" to deal with your hardware, or they are bad.
TAC should be fine talking to you about it.


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