>From a licensing perspective a CSF or other soft-client device added to UCM 
>and assigned to a user counts as a phone.  If your license gets your users 1 
>phone then you get pick hard or soft phone. If you get 2 then you can have one 
>of each (if you have CUWL and your users get 10 then buy more phones).

Going Jabber without IMP means you are only doing soft-phone mode (Phone-only) 
as mentioned earlier, and that's not a free feature in Jabber.

-Ryan

On Nov 25, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:


If they take up an enhanced license, I'm ok with that. We have enough to go 
around for now.

My concern is if, after pairing a hard phone and a jabber client to the same 
userID, the system wants to use an enhanced plus license. I don't have any if 
those and I'm not keen on operating in non-compliance mode.

Comments on that?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "NateCCIE" 
<natec...@gmail.com<mailto:natec...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Nope.  Each Jabber softphone client will use its own enhanced license, so if a 
user want Jabber on a PC/MAC and on a iPhone, that is 3 enhanced licenses 
including one deskphone.  Just like CIPC.

From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:14 AM
To: NateCCIE
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber (Everyone) without IM/Presence ?

Thanks for clearing that up. It's good to know that some platforms don't 
support phone only mode.

We have Enhanced licenses, not Enhanced Plus, I'm hoping that each user can 
have at least one Jabber instance. I'm also hoping that I don't need enhanced 
plus for users to have multiple jabber instances.

According to this, it looks like I'm set:

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/product_solution_overview0900aecd806cc7a4.html

Lelio



Sent from my iPad

On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:37 PM, NateCCIE 
<natec...@gmail.com<mailto:natec...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Your looking for Jabber Phone mode.

Some clients support it some don't. I believe we're still waiting for Mac phone 
mode.

Normally when you say jabber for everyone your talking about free im&p with no 
softphone. Softphone is always licensed.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 25, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:


I know I have a lot of reading and catching up to do, but I'm wondering if it's 
possible to deploy Jabber across our organization (even if just for a small 
pilot) without an IM/presence installation?

If possible, what do I lose? I'm assuming the obvious presence modality options 
are not available, but are there others?

Would I simply be deploying Jabber as a soft phone client? I'm looking at 
deploying these for desktops and mobile devices.

On a side note: Do they even make a soft phone any more, ie IP Communicator?

Thanks.

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