Steven ... correct, by plugging in the PC Port to the switch as well, you would 
be sending BPDUs back into the switch.


So as long as BPDU guard is enabled on the switch ports, then doing this would 
err-disable both switch ports (the one the PC Port and Network Port is plugged 
into). Pretty easy at that point to tell who the culprit is remotely, and in 
person.


= Ryan =



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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Stephen 
Welsh <stephen.we...@unifiedfx.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:43 AM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone Ports

I thought that this would be prevented by default because of spanning 
tree/BPDU, but it's common practice to disable spanning tree for access ports 
(i.e. using portfast) so that may allow the loop to occur, so maybe just 
disable port-fast?

Kind Regards

Stephen Welsh
CTO

[cid:CBBF0493-235C-43D2-A874-9FB3D95AF598@b2.unifiedfx.com]

On 10 Nov 2016, at 13:35, Ahmed Elnagar 
<ahmed_elna...@hotmail.com<mailto:ahmed_elna...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

That is not nice at all :(

Did you figure out a way to prevent it from switch side?

From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:34 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar 
<ahmed_elna...@hotmail.com<mailto:ahmed_elna...@hotmail.com>>; 
'cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>' 
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: RE: IP Phone Ports

Yes it will create a loop. Not a fun time trying to track these things down. 
I've had some non-Cisco IP phones completely down a LAN.

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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmed 
Elnagar
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:28 AM
To: 'cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>' 
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: [cisco-voip] IP Phone Ports

Dear all;

I want to know what will happen if a user connect "by mistake" both the PC port 
and Switch port to the network switch? Will this create a loop? Anyone tried it 
before?


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