I wonder if/how using a USB extension cord would help. So basically having the 
end device itself high above cubicle partition walls, away from any materials 
of interference.



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Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
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From: Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:53 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; Anthony Holloway; Ryan Ratliff (rratliff); Ed Leatherman
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list; Pawlowski, Adam
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Cisco 8851 and Bluetooth Speaker


This is true of almost any Bluetooth though, not exclusive to the 8800 phones. 
My old Jabra evolve could go up to halfway through my office on the dongle 
either in my 9971 or my PC, but directly paired to my PC it barely went over 3 
or 4 cubes down before starting to get choppy. I’m not sure if it’s because of 
(possibly) internal chipsets being lower powered, the antennae being badly 
routed (or increasing loss due to length) and/or loss by going through the 
casing of the object itself. Either way, it’s always better to use a dedicated 
adapter, but in the immediate vicinity of your cubicle or a small office, its 
less of an issue.



Ben Amick

Telecom Analyst



From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>; Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) 
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Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>; Pawlowski, Adam 
<aj...@buffalo.edu>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco 8851 and Bluetooth Speaker



so you're saying that the bluetooth transceiver built into the 8861 is not as 
good as the one you plug in?







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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.

Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure

Computing and Communications Services (CCS)

University of Guelph



519-824-4120 Ext 56354

le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs>

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco 8851 and Bluetooth Speaker



Something to note about the 8861/51 and Bluetooth, is that when I pair my 
Plantronics Voyager Focus UC directly to my 8861, the quality is not that 
great.  However, if I stick the included Bluetooth dongle 
(BT600<http://cp.mcafee.com/d/1jWVIi6wUSyMY-Yess7cCXCQkmnSkNMV4QsCQkmnSkNPPX9J55BZVYsY-Urhhsd79EVLuWdPp3lpmawECSHIdzrBPpdJnor6TbCXSgSVEVuvW_c8FELnhWZOWrbP_e6zBOXXzDkhjmKCHtxDBgY-F6lK1FJ4SMrLRQkNPaqqar1KVI04IvI9NH2lGsLztcmzl1KQY8jsLsTqlblbCqOmbAaJMJZ0kIToHMd9_7wqrhuphhdwLQzh0qmXiFqFsPmiNFtd40BaBGCy1VVZ4Qgr10Qg39XvPHmpcQg32TWl-9JwQsCYJ50GQ_WMd6S>)
 into the side of my 8861 first, then pair with the dongle, the quality is 
pretty great.



So, for whatever the reason for my experience, the 8861 cannot meet the high 
quality demands I have, on its own, without the dongle.  This might be true for 
you folks looking to get the 510 as a speaker phone too.  I.e., You should use 
it plugged into the phone via USB, instead of using Bluetooth.  Maybe.



On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 8:47 AM Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) 
<rratl...@cisco.com<mailto:rratl...@cisco.com>> wrote:

The 8800s are the only bluetooth endpoints that support wideband audio.



I wouldn’t bother using bluetooth on anything else unless you are a g729 shop 
or in general don't care about audio quality.



-Ryan



On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Ed Leatherman 
<ealeather...@gmail.com<mailto:ealeather...@gmail.com>> wrote:



We've been using the speak 510's for just this reason and they've worked out 
OK.. actually started using them with 8945's initially but bluetooth seems to 
work better on the 8800's, anecdotally.



I haven't been thrilled with the 8831. Internal customers don't care for the 
form-factor and they haven't been as reliable as the 7937's for us.



On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Pawlowski, Adam 
<aj...@buffalo.edu<mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>> wrote:

Has anyone tried to use the Cisco 8851 and a Bluetooth speakerphone as sort of 
a poor man's conferencing set? The sets themselves sound pretty good on their 
own, but, something like the Jabra Speak 510 that is Bluetooth enabled would be 
a more cost effective option than the $900+ 8831 set (which still has an 
unresolved bug causing the Conf button to randomly fail anyways).

It is obviously not explicitly called out as supported, but, anyone tried this 
and had any success? Or, any recommendation on a 3rd party conferencing phone 
that is more cost effective, even if not as capable, for a smaller (6 - 8 
person) conference?

Regards,

Adam Pawlowski
SUNYAB NCS
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