If AA is that critical you could always standup a CUC server that only handles 
AA as a backup. There wouldn’t be a license impact with PLM/Smart Licensing as 
you don’t need any users.




> On May 4, 2020, at 15:13, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> All valid questions. No offense taken. Unless of course, you complain about 
> me primarily using the @ macro plus route filters in all my route patterns. 
> Then, them’s fighting words. 😉
>  
> The great thing about CUE was that it covered all scenarios with one 
> solution. Every other scenario will need at least another fall-back meaning 
> two solutions. I did this in my head a while back, never got it down on paper.
>  
> While I can appreciate the idea of a UNTCNXN cluster (is that the right 
> acronym Anthony?), I’m not sold that there will never be a scenario where the 
> second node will always work during whatever maintenance we’re planning. I’ve 
> read document after document after scenario after scenario and have found we 
> always seem to fit in that one exception to the rule for whatever reason.
>  
> I’m not saying that we won’t eventually move to a CUXN cluster (we’re not 
> there yet) – but I was hoping to have a bit more time to delve into a proper 
> design of both what the cluster can and can’t give us and what options we 
> have for fall-back.
>  
> Let’s say, for whatever reason, a database corruption is replicated across 
> the cluster. Then what? What do I do? I have to restore services from backup, 
> rebuild the cluster, etc. All the while, having an unreliable AA going around 
> because SRSV is trying to connect? (again, I don’t know the ins and outs of 
> SRSV and CNXN clusters).
>  
> Having CUE available let me sleep at night and gave me a quick get out of 
> jail free card I could use for almost any maintenance requirement, including 
> those outside my control.
>  
>  
>  
> From: Charles Goldsmith <w...@woka.us> 
> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 1:53 PM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
> Cc: Eric Pedersen <peders...@bennettjones.com>; voyp list, cisco-voip 
> (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco moth-balling CUE - Is Connection SRSV the 
> answer?
>  
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>  
> Lelio, just curious why you would have scheduled downtime for the entire CUC 
> cluster?  I can appreciate downtime for a node for maintenance, but even 
> during an upgrade, your cluster should be up, one node or the other.
>  
> If it's more DC / network outage, why not have the 2nd node of your CUC 
> cluster where ever you have your CUE for "backup".
>  
> No offense intended on your design, just wanting to know and possibly learn 
> if it's something I'm overlooking.
>  
> Thanks
>  
>  
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>  
> Ok. Thanks. This might work. 
>  
> What I’m hoping to be able to do is to manually redirect calls from 
> Connection to SRSV (for AA and voicemail) and still allow calls to be 
> transferred accordingly to phones registered to CUCM, not SRST. 
>  
> This was easily done with CUE, since it would register to both CUCM and SRST. 
>  
> If SRSV has similar functionality, we’re golden. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 4, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Eric Pedersen <peders...@bennettjones.com> wrote:
> 
> 
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> Yes, from what I remember it can operate while CUCM and CUCX are both up.
>  
> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio 
> Fulgenzi
> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 9:37 AM
> To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco moth-balling CUE - Is Connection SRSV the 
> answer?
>  
> Do you know if SRSV can operate while CUCM is up?
>  
> The great thing about CUE, is that it operated while CUCM was up. Completely 
> independent of Unity Connection.
>  
> This means, I could schedule downtime for Connection and have an almost fully 
> operational AA working.
>  
> From: Eric Pedersen <peders...@bennettjones.com> 
> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 11:35 AM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip 
> (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: RE: Cisco moth-balling CUE - Is Connection SRSV the answer?
>  
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> I used SRSV a while ago for one of our remote sites. I found it much simpler 
> to get up and running than CUE and you can use your centralized Exchange.  
> IIRC you can send your voicemail pilot back to the gateway SRSV is registered 
> to so all calls go to it. But it's been a really long time…
>  
> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio 
> Fulgenzi
> Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 11:38 AM
> To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: [cisco-voip] Cisco moth-balling CUE - Is Connection SRSV the answer?
>  
>  
> Looks like Cisco is moth-balling CUE. I liked that product. I’ll miss it.
>  
> It looks like Connection SRSV is the answer. Although I’m not sure it will 
> offer everything we used (and planned to use) CUE for. For example, our 
> voicemail ports forwarded to CUE which was always registered to CUCM. This 
> way, calls would continue to work. It’s looking like SRSV will only work if 
> the router is in SRST mode and all phones are registered to SRST.
>  
> Has anyone successfully deployed SRSV? How about using it during voicemail 
> maintenance?
>  
> Lelio
>  
> 
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