Should plar when you hit the button if the only device dn in that CSS list of 
partitions is blank.   



> On Oct 9, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com> wrote:
> 
> First question,
>  
> On the sip phone, how do I setup a dn button so when the button is pressed 
> (taken off-hook) it PLARs? The SIP dial-rules appear to only work when you 
> take the phone off hook, not a specific button.
>  
> Matthew Huff | Director of Technical Operations | OTA Management LLC
>  
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>  
> From: Kent Roberts <k...@fredf.org> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:59 AM
> To: Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com>
> Cc: Austin Williams <austinpucknet...@gmail.com>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Single button ARD
>  
> I was thinking the DN on the phone side… so it will ring..
> Use the Part/CSS thing for a PLAR but the destination side would be CTI 
> port…. Set that port to auto forward everything to a number that you can use 
> to route to your gateway.   Sip route patters are more for address with @ in 
> them….   The route patter to your gateway can get the call there.    At the 
> Gateway dial peer, clean up whatever as it goes out.    Or if you own/control 
> both sides you could just pass the numbers through.
>  
> Translation pattern should work, and well a route pattern to should work 
> instead of a CTI. As they have part/css bases and function the same way as a 
> phone..
>  
> Are you able to control the call routing on the gateway from something via 
> CUCM?   I guess is there once side more of an issue then the other?
>  
> 
> 
> On Oct 9, 2021, at 5:25 AM, Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com <mailto:mh...@ox.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> “Ringdowns” are something very common in the trading world. Most traders sit 
> in front of what is called a “Turret” instead of a traditional phone. Turrets 
> in the past were mostly key-switch systems with limited routing 
> capability;i.e, everything is hard-wired.
>  
> Here is the full picture.
>  
> Customer Turret Button -à Turret PBX à> IPC T1 dedicated channel ………IPC T1 
> dedicated channel …..-> IOS Gateway-à CUCM-> Our Phones -> Trader button
>  
> This is setup this way to bypass PSTN, dialtone, etc..
>  
> At the customer site they may have many traders with the same button. On our 
> side we may have many traders with the same button
>  
> Either side at any time may press the button and the other side immediately 
> rings. Anyone can pickup at that side. Since there is only one channel per 
> ringdown, only one call can be placed per ringdown.
>  
> 
> I have had this working with SCCP phones on call manager express for many 
> years with this:
>  
> voice-port 0/3/1:0
> define Tx-bits idle 1111
> define Tx-bits seize 0000
> define Rx-bits idle 1111
> define Rx-bits seize 0000
> no vad
> no comfort-noise
> connection plar B100
> description StockLoan
> station-id name StockLoan
>  
>  
> ephone-dn  32
> number B100
> label Stock Loan
> description Stock Loan
> name Stock Loan
> trunk B101
> !
> dial-peer voice 300 pots
> description StockLoan
> destination-pattern B101
> port 0/3/1:0
>  
> I’ll take a look at CTI route points. There are a lot of ways of doing things 
> in CUCM and I’m not familiar with a lot of them, so I don’t know where to 
> even look. So I would use a CTI route point for incoming calls and a SIP Dial 
> Rule for outbound? One question about that is that the documentation for SIP 
> dial rules talk about 79xx phones not 88xx series phones. Does it work with 
> them as well?
>  
>  
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>  
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> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net 
> <mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Austin Williams
> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 12:07 AM
> To: Kent Roberts <k...@fredf.org <mailto:k...@fredf.org>>
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Single button ARD
>  
> This one has me curious now too. Took me a second to understand what you were 
> looking for specifically though. I'd think that the Ringdown to a CTI route 
> point forwarded to the PLAR DN on the phone and then a duplicate on the way 
> back should work. I don't think there is anything stopping a PLAR DN from 
> answering a call but Like Kent just said "Stranger things have happened."
>  
> I might test this out on Monday with a few test phones I have laying around 
> and see what happens.
>  
> One question though, Do you also want it to auto answer on each side, Kinda 
> like a push to talk or just cause the phone to ring on the other side? I'm 
> going to experiment with both cause I can see a use for both in my setup.
>  
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 9:19 PM Kent Roberts <k...@fredf.org 
> <mailto:k...@fredf.org>> wrote:
> If you put a DN on the source it should be able to ring….   All the guys I 
> work with that have interacted with plars all agree… but stranger things have 
> happened in the new versions of cucm… so… :)
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca 
> <mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>  
> 
> I can’t recall, but are we saying that an extension that is configured as a 
> PLAR isn’t able to receive calls? I could have sworn this was possible. 
>  
> If this is true, wouldn’t this solve the issue? One button to both call out 
> one number and receive calls? And a similar one on another phone?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com <mailto:mh...@ox.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
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>  
> Not really, since it requires acknowledgement. My example only goes so far, 
> in reality, one end of the ARD is a T1 line on a IOS voice gateway that goes 
> to another entity.
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> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Single button ARD
>  
> Sounds like you are trying to setup an intercom.
>  
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/11_5_1/featureConfig/CUCM_BK_C7DC69D3_00_cucm-feature-configuration-guide_115/CUCM_BK_C7DC69D3_00_cucm-feature-configuration-guide_115_chapter_011001.html
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> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net 
> <mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Matthew Huff
> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 1:26 PM
> To: Austin Williams <austinpucknet...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:austinpucknet...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
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> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Single button ARD
>  
> EXTERNAL EMAIL
>  
> Here is a full example of what I need. 
> 
> Two users, named Steve & Joe each with a 8861 SIP phone on CUCM 14.x
>  
> Steve has a prime-dn of 6000
> Joe has a prime-dn of 6001
>  
> On Steve’s phone he has two extra buttons:
>  
> Speed Dial,               labeled [TO JOE],       which dials 7001
> Directory Number, labeled [ FROM JOE] which has a DN of 7000
>  
> On Joe’s phone, he has two extra buttons:
>  
> Speed Dial,               labeled [TO STEVE],       which dials 7000
> Directory Number, labeled [ FROM STEVE] which has a DN of 7001
>  
> That is easy and works fine.
>  
>  
> But I need it to be single buttons:
>  
> On Steve’s phone
> Labeled [JOE], which dials JOE and receives calls from JOE when he presses 
> his [STEVE] button
>  
> One Joe’s phone
> Labeled [STEVE], which dials Steve and receives call from Steve when he 
> presses his [JOE] button
>  
>  
> I have this working on SCCP phones in Call Mnager Express and is very 
> standard in a trading environment. Anyone have any ideas?
>  
>  
>  
> Matthew Huff | Director of Technical Operations | OTA Management LLC
>  
> Office: 914-460-4039
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>  
> From: Matthew Huff 
> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 12:54 PM
> To: 'Austin Williams' <austinpucknet...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:austinpucknet...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
> <mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Single button ARD
>  
> That is exactly what I’m not trying to do. Everytime I mention PLAR or ARD 
> those are the articles I’m referred to and are not helpful. That example and 
> others are for courtesy phones, hotlines, etc..
>  
> What I need to do is when a dedicated T1 channel on the voice gateway (IOS 
> 2800) goes off-hook it routes to a DN on the phone. When the same DN is 
> picked up, it dials a number that routes back to the same channel on the 
> voice gateway.
>  
> I can do this with two buttons (one being a speed dial, and the other being a 
> DN), but I need this to be a single button. Someone could have 20 different 
> ring downs on the same phone device.
>  
>  
> Matthew Huff | Director of Technical Operations | OTA Management LLC
>  
> Office: 914-460-4039
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> ...........................................................................................................................................
>  
> From: Austin Williams <austinpucknet...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:austinpucknet...@gmail.com>> 
> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 12:49 PM
> To: Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com <mailto:mh...@ox.com>>
> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
> <mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Single button ARD
>  
> What are your gateways built with, MGCP, H323, SIP? What version of call 
> manager are you working on?
>  
> Ringdowns for call managers are built using CSSs, Partitions and a Null 
> Translation pattern.
>  
> Here is a good article on it: 
> https://www.networkcomputing.com/networking/using-cucm-configure-plar-phones 
> <https://www.networkcomputing.com/networking/using-cucm-configure-plar-phones>
>  
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 11:19 AM Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com 
> <mailto:mh...@ox.com>> wrote:
> I’m trying to setup a button on people’s phone where they will get inbound 
> calls like a (DN) when voice-port goes off-hook on our gateway (connection 
> plar xxxx). When the button is pressed on any phone, it should do the same 
> thing, take the channel off hook on the voice gateway.
>  
> All the example’s I’ve seen are for doing PLAR when the phone goes offhook or 
> the “new call button” is pressed, but not a separate line.
>  
> I’ve done this in the past with CME like:
>  
>  
> voice-port 0/3/1:0
> define Tx-bits idle 1111
> define Tx-bits seize 0000
> define Rx-bits idle 1111
> define Rx-bits seize 0000
> no vad
> no comfort-noise
> connection plar B100
>  
> ephone-dn  32
> number B100
> trunk B101
>  
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>  
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