To be pedantic,  a collision is an event which occurs over the  wires/fibre.
If congestion happens internally in a switch/router it may be a problem but
it is not in network speak a collision.

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> From:         woody[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To:     woody
> Sent:         11 May 2000 10:22
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: CSMA/CD : full duplex
> 
> Further to my original post...
> 
> It is possible to get collisions on a Full Duplex segment.  Transmission
> from the switch towards the destination is a shared bandwidth domain (with
> other originating hosts transmitting towards the same destination).  As
> such
> collisions may occur on the transmit from the switch towards the
> destination.  CSMA/CD is used to overcome this.  This may be done
> internally
> within the switch (buffering of frames etc) but it is still there...
> 
> Keith
> 
> ""Joe Martin"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8fbq4s$80t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8fbq4s$80t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Full duplex transmission requires a point to point connection between
> two
> > devices.  This is achieved using a switch.  Since the connection is
> between
> > two and only two devices at a time, this allows them to transmit and
> receive
> > at the same time.  Thus a collision would never occur and CSMA/CD is
> > unnecessary.
> >
> > JOE
> > CCNP, CCDP, and a few other things...
> >
> >
> > "Dan West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Sorry to ask such a simple question--but the CCNA book
> > > is still unclear as to what's going on.
> > >
> > > Half-duplex ethernet uses CSMA/CD for arbitration on
> > > the link. Does full duplex use it as well for
> > > arbitration? The book makes it sound like if you are
> > > running full-duplex that the CSMA/CD is not necessary.
> > > It mentions half-duplex looping a duplicate frame onto
> > > the recieve wire from the transmit wire.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
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