I personally would prefer not to have my inbox cluttered with flame wars,
Cisco-centric or not.  Please reply to each other directly and refrain from
these postings to the group.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cisco God [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 3:33 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: DELL
> 
>     I don't assume anything about the job that is not stated in the 
> recruiter's email. His email mentioned NT, Unix, and Novell. And despite
> the 
> fact the he thinks job titles are hacked and cobbled together, unless his 
> job descriptions are hacked and cobbled too, I would hope they have
> mention 
> of Cisco somewhere. I realize you might not be Cisco-centric and that you 
> would like to see all types of jobs, perhaps it would be best for you to 
> browse over to monster.com or headhunter.net. This happens to be a 
> Cisco-centric mailing list and we should at least make an attempt to keep
> it 
> like that. It's not my fault if you don't think there are enough Cisco
> jobs 
> getting posted on here, but that does not make it okay to start posting 
> whatever we want.
>     As far as me defaming and stifling, I'm not the one that makes 
> assumptions about "real" email addresses. What does my hotmail account
> have 
> anything to do with the conversation. What is ea.com? And I'm also not the
> 
> one calling people "stupid" and "idiotic". Leave the kiddy name calling at
> 
> home and perhaps you won't have to be looking so hard for a job.
> 
> >From: "McElhaney, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "McElhaney, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Cisco God'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        
> >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        
> >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        
> >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: DELL
> >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:30:14 -0700
> >
> >Why do you have to be so stupid. You have made some idiotic assumptions
> >about this posting. This is a jobs list and someone is posting a job in a
> >related field and you are so high and mighty to assume this has nothing
> to
> >do with Cisco?? I am so tired of lame people like you in these lists. I 
> >have
> >been on this list for a few months now and have seen few real job
> postings
> >from anyone. Now someone actually puts up real jobs and you, Mr. "Cisco 
> >God"
> >surely would never need to look for a job. Or are you just some flake who
> >has nothing better to do but defame and stifle progress. Clark from Dell
> at
> >least has a real email address, not some, "I'm going to get a hotmail
> >address and call myself a Cisco God even though I don't know a darn thing
> >about Cisco routers" email address. I would much rather see actual job
> >postings as spam than your idiotic replies. See, I have a real email
> >address. Don't you Mr./Mrs./Miss Cisco God? Some of us people in the real
> >workforce aren't Cisco-only centric. Are you? That's too bad.
> >
> >                                                             Scott M.
> >www.scott.mcelhaney.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Cisco God
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:47 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: DELL
> >
> >
> >The job titles have little importance, but I don't see anywhere in your
> job
> >description where the word "Cisco" shows up. So, unless the positions you
> >offer have anything to do with the subject of this mailing list... please
> 
> >go
> >
> >spam elsewhere.
> >
> >
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: DELL
> > >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:23:15 -0500
> > >
> > >We are aware NT and Novell are not networks-that they are operating 
> >systems
> > >to facilitate utilization of particular systems that are networked
> > >together.
> > >Most everyone understands job titles are hacked, cobbled and
> > >abbreviated...Network Systems Admin, Systems Admin, with the billions
> of
> > >acronyms floating about I'm sure we will disagree on the best usage of
> > >all-but at the end of the day...where does this issue stand in relative
> > >importance?
> > >
> > >Clark
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Dollard Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:59 AM
> > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: DELL
> > >
> > >
> > >totally unrelated, im sorry but in my book novell and NT are not 
> >NETWORKS,
> > >nor are they NEtworking positions. its system.  i do like the idea that
> 
> >job
> > >offers can be sent out to the list, thats pretty cool.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De:     [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Date:   mardi 23 mai 2000 19:33
> > > > À:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Cc:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Objet:  DELL
> > > >
> > > > Positions for which I am currently sourcing:
> > > >
> > > > 2 More H/A Mission Critical admins w experience in a true 24/7
> Mission
> > > > Critical environment (examples would be airlines networks, banks, or
> > >heavy
> > > > traffic e-commerce ebay, aol or equivalent)
> > > > NT with former Unix highly desireable
> > > >
> > > > Network Admins .COM= experience in supporting start-up ventures. I 
> >don't
> > > > have a lot of details regarding this one-I will tomorrow-but I'm
> > > > extrapolating that we are looking for admins that have experience
> > >scaling
> > > > networks with growth and keping them highly avail.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Network Operating Specialists= well heeled admins that understand
> > > > raid,connectivity and know NT or Novell well.
> > > > The above positions are all Austin based.
> > > >
> > > > And if you have pals that are :
> > > >
> > > > OEM or VAR Sales with analogous experience to what Dell does, are at
> 
> >an
> > >AE
> > > > or MAM level and have excellent rapport with: FED, K-12, HIGHER ED
> or
> > > > STATE
> > > > & LOCAL  have them contact me.
> > > > The sales positions are home based-offices in many different cities
> in
> > >the
> > > > US.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Clark Westerman
> > > > DELL Staffing, Public, Americas and International
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
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