As a devout member of the Cult of My Self Help Guru, I can only say that I firmly believe that it is every bit as important to understand why you want something as it is to set the goal to achieve it. It is far too easy to have worked hard to achieve some state or some reward, and then, having attained it, look around and say "is this all there is? Some of you have been the beneficiaries / victims ( all depends upon the frame of mind, doesn't it? ) of my distillation of My Guru's teachings. It is of no importance that the source of good advice is from this place or that. What is important is that it is good advice. Recently I posted some good advice, modified slightly in an effort to provide a bit of amusement as well as serenity. My apologies to those who took offense. It was not my intention to preach to you or to try to convert you to one belief system or another. It was my intention to offer a bit of perspective. Remove the belief specific references, and what remains is a meditation of worth. May I offer another? Have the courage to change what you can, the strength to accept what you cannot, and the wisdom to tell the difference. Best wishes to all of us who pursue the Prize Chuck Please check out my new footers for a new age 1) Altruism http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/HungerSite Please help feed hungry people worldwide. A few seconds a day can make a difference to many people 2) Shameless Hucksterism www.certificationzone.com An excellent study focal point for all levels of certification, as well as the attainment of internetworking expertise. Use my name when you register. You get good study material and I get extra time ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]