I passed in April. Know that Token-Ring stuff! The Giles book is a good reference, despite its errors. Art I am writing the CCIE next week. Any recent writers have any advice! I have already completed the CCNP May/99 and have about 4 yrs working with Cisco gear and 8yrs Networking. Patrick Arthur Davis Network Engineer Altra Energy Technologies ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]