I was not going to respond on this one, but I have to back Howard. As a
networking professional, I have no problem helping others, but as soon as
the work becomes involved, or starts taking great amounts of my time, I have
to charge you. Everyone is entitled to make a living. If you are "sharing
information and technology" that has been copyrighted and you are not
abiding by the copyright laws, you are breaking the law. Its that simple.
It doesn't really matter what your ideology says, the courts have said that
copyrighted material is protected from pillaging. Does it not matter to
you, that someone has spent hours developing the material you are stealing?
In fact, if you are stealing this material does it not matter to you that
you are keeping this person from making money and possibly from feeding
his/her family?
Of course this rant is only applicable to copyrighted material in country
where laws like this exist. I realize that this is a US centric rant, but
it really irritates me when people steal copyrighted material just because
"its a must in this fast moving IT era".
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 8:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Free CBT site , download while you can !
>Dinesh_Kakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,
>hello Natasha,
>
>i think u have very bad thinking for this kind of subject, what i feel is
>that u should be happy that people are sharing information & technology & i
>feel its must in this fast moving IT era.
>Ask those guys who developed Linux kind of OS & how much happy they are
>after seeing that so many people are utilising their effert.
>think possitively & be happy.
Bad thinking? I feel I have an obligation to my profession, and
believe me, I am not paid for contributing to this list or other
forums. To me, it's an ethical thing to do, and can be fun.
When I do presentations at NANOG or write RFCs, these are freely
available -- and should be.
But I would also argue that I have a right to an income. I am good at
designing networks and networking products, and I am also good at
explaining things. Are you suggesting I should do design consulting
free? Then why should I not be able to charge for some educational
materials? Let's put it this way--what's the incentive to develop
free things beyond a certain point?
I think you will find that most ethical professionals, in any
profession, both give back to their profession and charge for their
work.
What do you feel you should, and should not, be paid for?
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Natasha [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:58 AM
> > To: Dan Kaven
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Free CBT site , download while you can !
> >
> > Not a lot of things upset me enough to publicly complain but if what is
> > being done here is giving away software and cracks for Cisco training
> > courses then mister what you are doing is illegal. As a software
> > developer I put a lot of work and time into projects and would not be
> > very happy to see it given away.
> > Folks I suggest if this is the case, please do not download it! Any
> > cracked software may contain potentially damaging code and should not
be
> > trusted.
> > If this is not the case and I'm over reacting then I apologize to the
> > group.
> > Natasha
> >
> > Dan Kaven wrote:
> > >
> > > http://wonderinfo.net/certroom/e.html
> > >
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