Thank you, Chuck..  I'm sure cisco does the version thing as another way to
ensure that folks are knowledgeable on new and upcoming technologies but as
with everything else it's another way to make more money, hence the recent
onslaught of titles geared towards CCNP v2.0.  I don't know why folks place
a line between these titles in the fist place.  In all I really believe it's
a manifestation of insecurity from that individual themselves; saying
they've got the most recent cert possibly leaves them with less of a chance
to be questioned about technologies that might come into question.

However the terminology "There's no future without first knowing the past"
seem to fit perfectly.  Folks would do well to remember that amongst
everything else.

My $0.02

Nigel..

----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: tayta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 5:00 AM
Subject: RE: ccnp 2.0


> There seems to be a lot of concern about the migration to the so called
CCNP
> 2.0 track.
>
> First of all, the certification is CCNP. There are no levels, no hierarchy
> of values. My BA degree is of the same relative value as the BA of a 1950
> graduate or a 1999 graduate. A CCIE who attained his certification is no
> different than a CCIE who got the cert last month.
>
> Second of all while I appreciate the anxiety, the fact is that the core
> competencies will remain unchanged. Know your access lists. Know the Cisco
> troubleshooting methodology. Know OSPF, EIGRP, Token Ring, ISDN and DDR,
> switches, VLAN's, spanning tree, VTP. Know how to configure and how to
> troubleshoot. That means show and debug commands and outputs. Yes, there
is
> more BGP now.
>
> As far as "2.0" materials, what is a book titled "CCNP 2.0" going to say
> about OSPF that a book titled "CCNP 1.0" doesn't say?
>
> Also, there are a wealth of materials freely available on CCO. All the
books
> draw upon this material. If you have the means, spend some time
> familiarizing yourself with what is available. I am currently using two
> different CID/CCDP books as part of my test preparation. One of those
books,
> The Cisco Press publication, even goes so far as to refer readers to CCO
for
> many subjects where more detail is required. So you know that CCO has it
> all.
>
> Just concentrate on learning the technologies. The rest will take care of
> itself.
>
> HTH
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> tayta
> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:16 AM
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> Subject: ccnp 2.0
>
> anybody know of already published materials for working towards ccnp 2.0,
>
> thanks
>
>
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