Conceptually ESF or SF looks like this: The ESF or SF "Frame" is 193 bits, with (8bits*24channels)192 bits of DS0 channels and 1 frame bit. [ 1bit frame(for esf/sf)][8bit DS0-1][8bit DS0-2].....[8bit DS0-24] Keep in mind that a DS1/T1 is synchronies, and as such there is no start/stop bits. So, the clock uses the Framing bit and a specific repeating pattern (001011 in the case of ESF) to keep it's clock in sync, and to make sure it is looking at the correct 193bit frame. It turns out that there are so many bits available, ((193bit frame)/(T1 rate of 1.544Mbps) = 8Kbps Frame bits)), that you can provide much more than just clock sync. So, AT&T updated supper frame, to ESF(extended super frame) to include a CRC check, Error count, And maintenance channel all in this 8kbps frame/sync channel. Hope this helps. Oh, one last thing. If you purchase a Clear channel/common channel/ or Robbed bit DS1/T1 from your provider you will still need choose framing and Line coding. The choices for framing are: D4(or SF), & ESF. The best choice being ESF. now line coding choices are AMI/ZCS or B8ZS (chose B8ZS for ISDN-PRI or Data!) These have to do with how the Physical T1 places bits on the wire. AMI stands for Alternate Mark Inversion with Zero Code Substitution, and B8ZS stands for Bypolar 8bits with Zero Substitution. Basically, most digital signals are DCvlts to begin with, DC is extremely susceptible to noise. So what happens is you must alternate the way you express a Bit onto the wire. So that the first "1" bit is +15vlts(for instance) with the second "1"bit is -15vlts, and every "0"bit is 0vlts relative to carrier. Now, in a synchronies environment two many 0's in a row, will cause the clock to "Slip", and so something must be done. AMI/ZCS, just places a 1 in there somewhere. This could cause CRC failures in TCP/IP as data is "changed" in-transit. B8ZS on the other hand changes the way that the Bits are expressed, replacing 8 0's in a row with a +15 1bit, -15 1bit, a 0vlt 0bit, -15 1bit, and +15 1bit. Causing a "Bipolar error" that the end point recognizes and re-places with 8 0's. There is of-course more to it than that but that is the general concept. Hope this helps. --Jeremiah Peace --Systems Engineer --Lucent Technologies --A+, MCSE,CCNA,LCTE VoIP,Definity G3. At 08:16 AM 7/26/00, Kent wrote: >Priscilla, > > >As you mentioned that the robbed bits in the super >frames are only for voice signals, does this mean, if >I am only transfering data, I should tell me carrier >not use the robbed bits? Yes. >Still a bit confused about >the clear channels, does this mean, there is not bits >robbed in this channel? Yes >are they still using ESF? Sort of. I think technically the term "ESF" defines more than just the robbed bits, but in real-world practice ESF tends to refer to a channel where bits are being robbed. You'd have to read the small print in the documentation of the device you're configuring and/or talk to your carrier to be sure about how the term is used. >if >it is esf, by default every 6, 12, 18 and 24 bit are >robbed, if these bit are part of 64k and they are >robbed, how can we still have 64k? You don't get 64 Kbps if you're configured for robbed-bit signalling. If you're only sending data, and no voice, tell your carrier not to rob bits. Ask for a "clear channel" or "transparent channel." In this case, each DS0 is a full 64 Kbps. The least significant bit of each DS0 in frames 6, 12, 18, and 24 is no longer robbed. You will still use the framing bit that is specified by either the ESF or SF format, however. But this framing bit is the 193rd bit of each frame and is not part of any of the DS0s, so there's no robbing going on. ESF says to look at the 193rd bit in frames 4, 8, 12, 16 and 20 and 24 for the framing pattern of 001011. This same bit is also used for diagnostics and a block check field. The diagnostic function looks at the 193rd bit in every other frame, and the block check field looks at the 193rd bit in the 2nd, 6th, 10th, 14th, 18th, and 22nd fields. It's all very ugly and hard to explain without a white board and some actual product or carrier service documentation to look at. ;-) Priscilla ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clear channel question? -- A much more confusing explanation.....
Peace, Jeremiah J (Jeremiah) Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:59:07 -0700