OMG that is the funniest thing I have heard.  I myself am training to one
day become a cruise director.  The hard part is watching all the Love Boat
reruns and I am falling in love with Julie.

Timothy B. Fernandez
Network Technician
Technical Operations New York 2
Thomson Financial
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From: Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Technology, Certification, Skill Sets, and Looking [7:70860]

Wow, Chuck, way to suck the life out of the economy and our futures...oh,
wait, that was due to the bubble popping lo all those years ago. For an
assessment of networking futures, let's turn to Lovecraft...(thanks to
www.Cthulhu.org)

"It seemed to be a sort of monster, or symbol representing a monster, of a
form which only a diseased fancy could conceive. If I say that my somewhat
extravagant imagination yielded simultaneous pictures of an octopus, a
dragon, and a human caricature, I shall not be unfaithful to the spirit of
the thing. A pulpy, tentacled head surmounted a grotesque and scaly body
with rudimentary wings; but it was the general outline of the whole which
made it most shockingly frightful. "

We know the pulpy head has been popped...

Sadly, though, I believe that you are right on the money...networking and
its advanced features are becoming more point-button simple.  I figure that
we got about 10 years at the most before the bottom truly drops out and
networking becomes as simple and mindless as programming your VCR or
TiVo...you don't need assistance anymore.

As far as for myself,  I am currently working on developing my people skills
as I do want to attain senior greeter status...the handing out balloons and
talking is really tripping me up...does anyone want to form a study group
with me to study that?

Charles



""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> The Road Goes Ever On wrote:
> >
> > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> > message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Someone also just sent me a URL to this newspaper article
> > that points out
> > > the importance of learning business practices, not just
> > particular
> > > technologies. It's a good read:
> > >
> > > http://www.startribune.com/stories/789/3936460.html
> > >
> >
> > An interesting artivcle, and one with some nuggets of good
> > advice,
> > particularly for those new to the business cycle. For those who
> > have been
> > seeing articles like this over the past twenty years or so,
> > this article
> > reinforces good advice, much along the lines that NRF has
> > offered in other
> > threads that appear regularly on Groupstudy. Good advice is
> > timeless, and
> > the advice in this article, which reiterates similar outlooks
> > as have
> > appeared in the business press over the past couple of decades
> > remains true.
> >
> > Way back when I was learning things and formulating my own
> > technology
> > philosophy, I was blown away by three things I read - Peter
> > Keens book
> > Competing in Time, Paul Strassman's book The Business Value of
> > Computers,
> > and an obscure article written by an economist working for the
> > Chicago
> > Federal Reserve Bank. Each of these sources in its own way says
> > similar
> > things from a higher level. The Fed study was a short and
> > simple one, but of
> > all the business sources I have read, still seems the most
> > relevant. The
> > gist of the study was that investment in infrastructure yielded
> > high returns
> > in productivity. The author was reporting on government
> > investment in
> > physical infrastructure such as roads, water treatement, and
> > the like, but a
> > clever studentworking towards his master degree while going to
> > night school
> > ran with that theme and wrote a master's thesis which earned him
> > departmental honors.
>
> Was that you? :-) Sounds interesting.
>
> Thanks for commenting on the article. I thought it made some good points.
>
> Priscilla
>
>
> >
> > Anyone in the technology field, whether it be IT Management,
> > Consulting, or
> > even something as seemingly mundane as sales, should ALWAYS be
> > aware of the
> > business value of technology. Over the past 15 years or so it
> > has been
> > technology which has driven productivity.
> >
> > The dark side is that technology changes, and has a way of
> > becoming more
> > appliance like, meaning that what as skilled labor yesterday is
> > out of the
> > box tomorrow. Thin about it. All you folks who are AVVID
> > experts and
> > therefore in high demand. How long before AVVID is nothing more
> > than another
> > PBX, and routers self configure for QoS? Think the telco
> > employee who drives
> > the truck and installs your DSL is making 100K? not likely.
> >
> > So yes - keep your skills up to date, so you don't end up like
> > the guy in
> > the article. My own opinion is that one must always consider
> > the value to
> > business for any skill set one pursues.
> >
> > JMHO
> >
> > NRF - your comments are always welcome on topics such as these.




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