You know, Charles, you have a bright future as a Lab Proctor.

You definitely have the proper attitude.

Chuck

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Cthulu, CCIE Candidate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hi, all,
>
> This is a repost...after two days, I have not seen this appear.  Apologies
> if this is redundant... could be useful info!
>
> I was dickering around with OSPF (which is not as easy as it looks,
> dickering, I mean, not OSPF).  I raised some questions to myself,
> and posted them to the Cisco TAC about how or whether I could/should mix
> point to point and point to multipoint network types over a frame relay
> network.   The short answer is yes, Cisco answer is "we don't recommend
> it.".    While you can do it, I agree with Cisco:  on a production
network,
> I would ensure that everything
> matched (network types, etc).  However, in my lab and in the pursuit of
> knowledge, who cares;)
>
> As always, flames to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Charles
>
>
>
> KEY POINT:  HELLO!  (Hello intervals must match.)  Sub-point:  this would
be
> a good exam gotcha, wouldn't it?
>
> Original Question:
> On a frame relay partially meshed network, can I use ip opsf network
> point-to-multipoint on the hub router, and ip ospf network point-to-point
on
> the spokes?
>
> Additional Info:
> I have 3 routers on a frame relay partially meshed network.  The hub
router,
> A, has a link to the spokes, B and C.  I am running OSPF over this
network.
>
>
>
> My question is:
> On a frame relay partially meshed network, can I use ip opsf network
> point-to-multipoint on the hub router, and ip ospf network point-to-point
on
> the spokes?
> Would this work?  Are there any known problems with this?
>
>
> From Cisco TAC:
> You need to specify 'ip ospf network point-to-multipoint' on all the
routers
> for
>
> this to work. Alternatively, you could use subinterfaces.
>
>
> From Charles Riley: To Cisco TAC
>
> Thought you guys could use more detail on this;  I did some more research
on
> my own question;  here's the answer I was looking for:
>
> OSPF will work in situation where you have a point to point on one side
and
> a point to multipoint on the other side IF and only IF: (over a frame
relay
> network)
>
> 1.  The point to multipoint side can be either a physical or logical
> interface; use the ip os network command to set it as such.
>
> 2. The point to point side must be a point to point subinterface;  OSPF
will
> automatically detect it as such when you add the interface to the OSPF
> routing process.
>
> 3.  You must set the Hello intervals to match on both sides.  Once you
have
> done that, this configuration will work.
>
> As a rule of thumb, ensure that your OSPF network types match on both
sides.
> This is a Cisco recommendation and is a good one.  I had wanted to get
> official Cisco verification that you can run OSPF successfully with
> mismatched network types as long as the Hello timers matched ONLY on point
> to point and point to multipoint types.  You can not mix point to
> point/point to multipoint with broadcast/nonbroadcast:  the former do not
> use DRs; the latter do.
>
> This would be good information to keep int he QA forum.
>
> Many thanks for your original response.
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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