Hi Frank,

I thought about what I wrote to you, I am sorry that I
used some misappropreiate words. But I am sure you
will agree with me that it was just a reaction to what
you wrote. You would have said the same thing without
being so rude and nasty.

But I still disagree with what you said. If you look
at what Manoj and Muhammad wrote carefully you would
find that they are not asking for anything out of the
ordinary.

Tell me something, why do pilots get trained on flight
simulators and not the actual plane? Because if they
don't know what they are doing they will kill
themselves and their instructors.

I see no difference in this scenario and preparing for
any exam. Be it college or school exam or
certification exams. 

Secondly, if obtaining exam questions was wrong, then
Cisco, Microsoft and whole lot other High Tech firms
should file a law suit against Transcender, SelfTest
and CCPrep etc. Are they also not giving out test
question? You probably would also say that, "Not only
that those numb skulls want us to pay for it."

So my dear Frank, please think before you pass
judgement on others. Sometime I really hate Internet
because we take undue advantage of our anonymity. But
tell me would you have said what you said if you were
talking to Manoj and Muhammad face to face. I don't
think so. If you had disagreed, you would have
expressed your sentiment much differently. It is just
like peolpe show there finger while the are driving
and someone overtakes them dangerously but they won't
express themselves so impolitely if they are walking
on the sidewalk and someone bangs into them.

So it is not about free ride to CCNP certificate. In
this day and age when you are made to take exam online
it is rather difficult to pass exams by cheating. But
my experience with Transcender exams are that around
50% questions that I saw on the trancender tests were
repeated in the actuall exam. Would you call that
cheating? 

I just want to conclude this by saying that respect is
a two way process, you only get it if you give it to
others.

Take care 

Bye
--- Frank Haun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hatred, feedback???
> Why even have a test if the questions are commonly
> posted on the net.  I
> assume you would love to go and pass the test
> without any true idea of
> what was going on.  My point is that I would not
> like to be considered on
> the same level as someone who cheats.
> 
> 
> Syed Faisal Ashraf wrote:
> 
> > This message is for Mr. Frank Haun.
> >
> > Our elders tell us to think before speaking but
> > probably that doesn't apply to idiots like you
> because
> > that would require grey matter inside your skull
> which
> > you don't have. It is very easy to make enemies
> but it
> > takes courage to make friends. I am quite sure you
> and
> > Muhammad or for that matter I don't know each
> other,
> > then where is this hatred coming from Mr. Frank
> Haun.
> > Do you feel so insecure about your skills that you
> are
> > afraid that helping others to pass CCNA or CCNP
> will
> > jeopardies your job. I subscribed to this mailing
> list
> > to help and be helped. But if someone out there
> needs
> > help, how does it matter if they get little feed
> back
> > from this forum. So for next time I hope you will
> use
> > what ever is left of your grey matter in the
> benefit
> > of others. I really respect those who post answers
> on
> > this forum knowing they will not get anything out
> of
> > it.
> >
> > This message is for Muhammad,
> >
> > Dear Muhammad,
> >
> > Someone posted the address of this following web
> site
> > earlier on this discussion group:
> www.sasaschool.com
> > Cisco site is also full of good info.
> >
> > --- Frank Haun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Have you lazy bastards tried studying yet?  Why
> > > would you need the
> > > questions if you know the answers?
> > >
> > > Muhammad wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am also in need of a copy of the CCNP
> questions
> > > and
> > > > material regards,Muhammad
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: manoj kumar
> > > > To: JJE ; CiscoKing ;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > Friday, August 25,
> > > > 2000 9:52 PMSubject: Re: All CCNA 2.0 & CCNP
> 2.o
> > > Beta Questions - FREE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Hello,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would like a copy of CCNP questions and
> > > material.
> > > >
> > > > I have finished my CCNA and am preparing for
> my
> > > CCNP.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would be greateful to you
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > warm regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > manoj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > India
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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