In the HUTNIK and SATERLEE CCIE LAB BOOK, why do they always use SERIAL (HSSI to HSSI)to SERIAL Connections, DCE clockrate =500000. WHY CANT the connections be made in Ethernet or Fast Ethernet with Crossover UTP Cables? REASON!! I have only 2600's and 2500's--limited number of ETHERNET PORTS avaialble, also crossover cable expensive!! PS WHERE CAN I BUY CISCO ROUTERS USED FOR HOME CCIE LAB? I am tired of going to lab site 50 miles away at 5 AM Sunday iits lonely. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]