Group, Can we get off this weak @ss topic already. This is clearly a [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject and I know this because I remember when it came up in there 4 months ago. We get enough technical e-mails in our mail everyday. Why give us more junk to sift through. Sorry if I sound rude but I'm just being real. Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP <A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." ~William Jennings Bryan~ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]