Why not have it all??? Netigy is a great company that is offering immediate hands on experience with leading/bleeding edge technology + the opportunity to pursue CCIE certification (we have hooked up with Knowledge Management for training, have virtual labs, offer private lessons, and the chance to work with the who's who of the industry), + pre-IPO stock options. We also realize that stock options are a future promise of comp. In our case this future is quite promising! In the meantime we know that you have become accustomed to a certain lifestyle. We want you to maintain and improve this. That is why we are offering better than industry average salary + bonus (for the right here, right now). Bottom line: immediate hands on experience, training for the future, PLUS great comp now and in the future. Queen said it best: "I want it all and I want it now". Can't go wrong with that! Sincerely, Brian Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Hunter Netigy The World's Premier Architect of eBusiness Infrastructure [EMAIL PROTECTED] w) 913.422.3838 c) 913.634.4380 http://www.netigy.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:46 AM To: Traister, Blake (SBCI); 'Raymond Thomas' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Would you back-burner your CCIE training for... I am pressing hard for my CCIE certification however would value the chance to work for such a company for several reasons. 1. The challenge - realize and enjoy your achievements through life experience 2. The opportunity to excel - See comments on #1 3. High paced, hands on work - don't get as much as I would like 4. CCIE certification will be valid for a long time to come, why rush, do it right the first time! I can think of many more reasons but as one employer once said "slow down and get there faster" rings true. I'll take experience over certification in a heartbeat. Of course that is just me, I'm US Airforce retired, secure with finances and not really aiming at "the big paycheck". Personally I enjoying challenges and rewards for a job well done. This same philosophy kept me motivate through 21 years service in the military. But that just me. Scott CCNP, MCSE, etc, etc. www.geocities.com/sejordan2000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Traister, Blake (SBCI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Raymond Thomas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 7:48 AM Subject: RE: Would you back-burner your CCIE training for... > Im very envious of all you people that have jobs with labs and lab time (or > at least after hours availability). Frankly, if I had a job like that, > there would be no way I would take this Pre IPO job that Mr Thomas is > describing. I work for an SBC affilliate, so I can only hope that the upper > management from SBC have finally taken the red pill. > > It sounds like a fabulous opportunity to me. I have no problems with > jumping in to heavy workloads as long as I have support. Since I dont lose > my CCIE studying, its not that big of a loss to me. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 1:46 AM > To: Jobs@Groupstudy. Com > Subject: Would you back-burner your CCIE training for... > > > Hello all =) I have been working on a search for the PreIPO company that I > emailed about last week and I found out something yesterday that I didn't > know about. Since the company wants to go public by the end of this month, > the workload with this company will be heavy for all, especially for the > engineers. It's already heavy because that's the way it goes with any > startup company. But anyhow, the case is the my candidate will not be able > to study for his CCIE for a while. He will have a lot of hands on with Cisco > solutions, but no time for additional training for the first year. The > trade-off however, is stock options and what they most likely be worth. The > company is going public the end of this month. The upper management team > were the upper management from companies like Nortel, Bay, Ascend, Cisco, > SBC and other power-house organizations. They were founded in 98 and already > raised 95M in VC funding. They strong partnerships with other organizations > in the industry. Just a lot of other details involved as well. > > My question to all is, would you back burner your CCIE training for a while > for a chance of the options which you'll know the value of in a short amount > of time, or would you rather pass because CCIE is a must, ASAP? > > > God bless to all =) > Raymond Thomas > Lewis Consultants International, Inc. > 295 Northern Blvd Suite 302 > Great Neck, NY 11021 > (516)498-2300 ext. 103 > (516)498-1749 fax > (917)444-1334 pager > Web: http://lewisconsultants.com <http://lewisconsultants.com/> > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _________________________________ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. 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