I see it kind of like a matrix with 4 columns by 4 rows. The 4 columns are Routing, Switching, Remote Access and Support, and the 4 rows represent intermediate (lower row) to professional (upper row). For the CCNP, if you group all four lower rows into a rectangle, you can call that CCNA. That's where you have a basic understanding of all four topics. Before you have a professional understanding of the topics, you need to go through the three next rows in each columns, and when you have completed those four columns - you're a CCNP. Each individual has different prefered ways of learning things, but in my case I took the CCNA first so I had a basic understanding of all four topics. That way I knew all the basic stuff - how to login to the router, how to change passwords, how to make the router work, and I could concentrate on the more hairy stuff. I believe that the best sequence is CCNA, then Routing, Switching and Remote Access (in any order), and last Support. - But then again, I'm not a CCNP yet, so I can't be all old and wise. Hth, Ole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Cisco Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:43 PM To: Kevin Wigle; Glenn Johnson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exam Sequence for CCNP/CCDP? That is what happened to me. I passed all the CCNP tests and took my CCNA test last and got both on the same day. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Glenn Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Exam Sequence for CCNP/CCDP? > I'm not aware of any sequence requirements like you CAN'T take this exam > before that one. > > However, if for example you take and pass CID before CCDA (assuming you have > all the others) you won't get your CCDP. Even though CCDA is a "junior" > exam in this case - the CCDP requires it. > > So, take them in any order depending on your current knowledge/experience > but until the entire requirements list is completed you won't get your > initials. > > In general I think those books are just suggesting a logical path of exams > since I think it is commonly thought that you start at the beginning and > make your way to the end. Since CID and CIT are at the top of their paths, > it is thought that you should do the junior (or intermediate) stuff first. > > Actually, it's your choice. But again, you may pass the "senior" exams > first but you still have to pass the other stuff before you get the > initials. > > Kevin Wigle > CCDP/CCNP............. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, 17 September, 2000 13:55 > Subject: Exam Sequence for CCNP/CCDP? > > > > > > Does anyone know if the CID exam be taken before any of the other three > > CCNP/CCDP exams? > > > > I was unaware of any sequence requirements, just Cisco's suggested path, > > until I noticed in a few CID books that this exam "could" be taken after > the > > other three were completed. > > > > Thanks > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _________________________________ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _________________________________ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
