Well, that was a lot of fun. The Sylvan test center had major system problems. Mine was the only one of five test takers whose computer was operational. The noise from the troubleshooting was distracting, as well as annoying. But that's ok. How many real life situations have I been in where the conditions required concentration and there was no help from around me? :-> That said, I thought the test was ok. There were a couple of outstanding questions. Required some intelligence and some thought. There were a number of questions which required thorough understanding of protocol behavior. I'm looking through the blueprint as I write, so as not to violate the NAD. Let's see...... OK. There were a fair number of questions that were not really security related. I suppose they fall under the blueprint category "general networking" So in this respect, preparation would be similar as for the R&S exam. The rest was, as others have said, faithful to the blueprint. The blueprint calls for knowledge of Unix and NT operating systems. I saw related questions. The blueprint details security protocols such as Kerberos, RADIUS, TACACS+ Believe the blueprint. When the blueprint states there will be questions regarding application protocols, and names them, they ain't lying! All in all, a good test. One which I believe can be passed with more book knowledge than practical experience. Same as the R&S exam, in fact. As we all know, at the CCIE level, it is the Lab which separates the contenders from the pretenders. I wondered a bit what might be on any security lab exam, and I keep coming back to having to do things on servers and workstations, as well as routers. And that makes sense to me. Good security is, after all, implemented end to end. I for one am happy to see this certification coming into being. I do believe I will earnestly pursue this one after attaining my R&S Chuck ---------------------- Know the difference between most 50 year old men and Bill Clinton? Well, for one thing, most of them actually did inhale. And as much as they may have wanted to, the fact is most of them definitely did not have sexual relations with that woman! ;-> _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]