Hi, I've sucessfully setup pppoe on 1750 for the ADSL line. However it's "always on" nature costs a lot of tariff. How can I change it this pppoe into on-demand so that only when there is packet, ppp session will be brought up. IOS is 12.1 I find nothing related in "vpdn-group" and "int dialer". Even I set the "dialer idle-timeout = 20", the session never drops. Yuenme _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]