It has already begun it seems. "I work for Cisco", "I work for Juniper",
"we are better, hands down". Technical comparisons are great because that
benefits us all. General statements about which company is doing better or
opinions about who's product is better don't. I love interoperability posts
and information on pitfalls when dealing with various vendors. This is
really
helpful to us all. Once again (beating a dead horse), sales pitches
shouldn't
reside here.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
Quick question...what is going to prevent this study group from potentially
turning into a sales forum? With the anonymity that the Internet provides
for all I know the advice I get could come from a sales rep?
Brian Roe (GS-11)
TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
I agree, Leon should relax a little. Sure, this is a Cisco certification
study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that. This is
natural considering the number of list members who have developed
relationships with each other. We all know the regulars, and sometimes we
go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is.
We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a
great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from,
regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not.
It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by always
including OT in the subject line. I try to, but I don't always remember.
Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might not
be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we certainly
would not want to ban those topics.
So, everyone should do three things:
1. Chill out a little
2. Be more specific with subject lines
3. Learn to use the Delete button
Regards,
John
> GEEZ Leon....relax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM
> Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
>
>
> > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs
to
> > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME,
NOT
> > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO,
LET
> US
> > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make
a
> > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the
time
> of
> > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every
other
> > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to
> > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there
> > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time
to
> be
> > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up
your
> > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals
> who
> > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I
see
> > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing
that,
> > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take
your
> > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical
> > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue
to
> > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is
> trying
> > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put
down
> > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my
2
> > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point,
> provide
> > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY
study,
> we
> > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could
or
> > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that,
but
> > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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