While the CID test is challenging, it is easily passed if the complete and
well presented material is available to learn from. I noticed that Boson
responded quickly by revising their tests. Perhaps Sybex will quickly
respond with additions and corrections that can be downloaded. In a rapidly
changing environment like IT/IS it would seem best to have the ability to be
adaptive and informative.
Robert's response to my message indicated that I was making a personal
critique rather than a review of the book. I am sorry if my communication
gives this impression. Again, my reason for advising about the book is to
help others in this forum who like me are here to learn from mistakes, share
experiences and then build upon them. While this forum isn't perfect, it
does an excellent job of convenient cooperative learning. My remarks were
not scathing, just factual.
As to Robert's request to give a more detailed critique of the book, I am
not completely familiar with the Cisco's Non-Disclosure Agreement but would
assume that I/we would be violation of the agreement to do a
question-by-question comparison of the exam to the material of the book in a
public or private forum. Rather, I suggest that Robert re-take the 640-025
exam and then respond with the additions and corrections to the book that
could be easily obtained. Outside of that, I am available on a fee basis.
;-)
I further suggest to Robert/Sybex that the phrase on outside cover and on
page xxix "Everything You Need to Know to Pass the Cisco Internetwork Design
Exam" be removed. Considering Robert's qualifying remarks to me, probably
supports the need to do this. This was not my experience and evidently not
so for others as well.
I did find the book easy to read but, lacked the necessary content to pass
the 640-025 exam which has been my experience with Sybex books written for
Cisco exams. On the hand, I have had positive experiences using Sybex
books while pursing my CNE and MSCE certifications. The Sybex book for the
Microsoft Exchange 5.5 exam was so well written that I was able to read it
in a week and then pass the exam without any other material.
Happy Holidays.
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> I echo John's comments. While I didn't have the
> ciscopress book, I did have the official course
> materials from the CID class I took in 98. However, I
> took the exam in September 00 so I bought the Sybex book
> for review. While it did discuss X.25, SNA, & the
> StrataCom Line, the exam asked questions that were
> simply not in the text. Boson was a little more in
> depth and the course material provided a little more
> information for me. But again, there were a few
> questions that were simply not covered in the three
> items I used to prepare myself for the exam. Still
> passed with a slightly lower score than I was achieving
> on the other Cisco exams.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > John Huston
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:48 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CID help/Sybex Book Review
> >
> >
> > Caveat Emptor. Quick and dirty review after taking
> the test.
> >
> > With all due respect to the author(s), I do not
> recommend the
> > Sybex book
> > mentioned below for use to study the 640-025 test.
> >
> > The book is deficient in the areas of X.25, SNA,
> Campus Lan Design,
> > Desktop Protocol Design, Wan Design and especially
> security. I do
> > recommend the Cisco Press book because all of the
> areas that
> > I was tested
> > over are adequately covered and in greater detail.
> This is
> > the second Sybex
> > book that I have purchased that is inadequate. I
> found Sybex
> > is good for
> > Microsoft and Novell but so far it is a batting a zero
> for Cisco.
> >
> > Additionally, the Boson tests lack in the correct
> content.
> >
> > Recommendation. Unless you must pass the 640-025 test
> soon,
> > I would wait
> > until the self study material catches up with the new
> CID
> > test. Until then
> > make sure that you buy the Cisco Press book *Cisco
> > Internetwork Design* by
> > Matthew Birkner and make you own study questions via
> the program at
> > www.openwindow.com. The attached links will help you
> with
> > your studies over
> > SNA. There are probably more and better links but
> these are
> > the ones that I
> > have found so far.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> >
> > John Huston
> > A+ N+ CNE, MCSE, CCDA, CCNP
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> >
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly
> > > biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it
> > > covers the material well and I've not received any
> > > significant negatives, other than a desire that I had
> > > put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the
> > > material needed for the exam is present on these
> > > topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems,
> > > along with other newer technologies, as opposed to
> > > rehashing older ones.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > --- Jeff McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it
> somewhere....
> > > >
> > > > What would you say is the best study book for DPs
> > > > CID test? I usually use
> > > > examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied
> > > > other
> > > > materials...something comperable to the examcram in
> > > > terms of concise prep
> > > > would be what Im looking for. Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > >
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