Hello, I am sending out this message because I think that people need to be aware of certain companies looking to recruit from the US and Canada. I am writing specifically about Axioma in the Netherlands. I've seen some other postings on this web site about them. Some bad flames and some innocent questions. Let me start by saying that I used to work for Axioma. I will not disclose the time period that I worked for them. For all of those who are looking at Axioma, or who have had interviews with them in the US or Holland or those of you who are thinking of signing a contract....Listen Up! Axioma is not the grand company that they make themselves out to be. They lost lots of money in 2000 because of people who have skipped out of town or people who decided at the last minute to not move over. In a 1 month period, 4 people left the company. In a period of 1 year, there have been appox. 20 employees hired from the US/Canada. Right now, there are 5 left. Everyone who has left Axioma has been unhappy. Thier reasons are very justified. Axioma has promised alot of great things. Unfortunatly, they never came through with thier promises. The company can see only $$ signs. They do not care for the individual. In the past, Axioma has forgotten to pay people. They have gone so far as to come up with lies to try and get money from us. For example, 1 employee gave a 30 day notice. They threatened to not pay this person for thier last month because this employee was "on the bench". Another situation - another employee gave thier 1 month notice, and Axioma tried to make them pay 1,000 USD to them because Axioma said that they have to pay for bench time. (Bench time or being on the bench just means that you are in between contracts. You are still a permenant employee at Axioma. They just don't have a contract for you and you are not making any money for them.) Does it sound like people are on the bench alot?? One employee sat on the bench for 3 months when he first arrived. Axioma could not him a job. Another point I want to make. Most people are looking at Axioma for a Cisco position. Think again. Out of 20 employees in 2000, only 1 has had a decent Cisco position. Others have had to do help desk, operational work or documention. This is not a good opportunity if you are trying to get ahead in the Cisco field. The chances are very great that you will be placed in a position that is not Cisco-centric. Everyone who has come over to work for Axioma, came very disillusioned and found out the hard way what Axioma was all about. I am sending this email because I think people deserve to know what goes on at Axioma. For those who are scheduled to move over, I urge you to seriously consider this. It is not easy moving to another country, and Axioma isn't very helpful in this matter. They expect you to be an adult and take care of transitional things are your own. For example, phone hookup, driving, getting around, permits, etc. Don't let them fool you by saying that they will take care of the permits. There have been too many people to count who have come and gone and never even had a work permit or a residence permit. 1 person left after 6 months, and still didn't have any of these things. I'm sorry this email is a little long. But I really think that people need to be warned of Axioma. My best advice, look to another company if you are hell-bent on working in Holland. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

